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Jaime Sevilla

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
54 total appearances

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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

So if I was to bring in a different view here, obviously the consumer section proportion is quite large.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

And we know from Sarah Fryer that about 60% is now consumer, 40% enterprise.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

So obviously the enterprise push is there, and we know that the enterprise push would be, you know,

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

bringing in money for the company quite well.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

The consumer side is very competitive given Gemini and other AIs, which you can easily have on your device.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

Say like Samsung, I just hold my finger over a button and I have access to Gemini.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

So there's very little friction in using it.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

But so if I was Sam Altman, I would want to try to see if I could do something different on the consumer side.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

And obviously we know they're hoping to bring out a device

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

That is a unique, different side of targeting that consumer component.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

And if there's other things they can do there that would keep, you know, their consumer money coming in.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

If I was to add anything, I guess I'm wondering how things will move also to the edge.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

So obviously you have a lot of this build-out for the hyperscalers in data centers, but we commented on, Azeem, you said you were running an LLM on device.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

At what point will they get better data?

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

to the state that you can actually run the things you're doing now on your device with hardware improvements that are coming and the algorithmic improvements which are also coming.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

And I wonder at what point we can do most of the things we're doing now on our device.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

It seems like the same way that planes were still flying in COVID so that they could keep their flight routes, even though no one was flying.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

I was actually quite surprised the margins were where they were, as in the gross margins, because I wasn't expecting them to be around 50%.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

That seems pretty good for a model where people are saying they're always having losses year on year on year.

Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
Inside the economics of OpenAI (exclusive research)

And although we heard from Dario and Sam that at the model level, insinuating there's a profitability, to actually see that come out in the numbers is quite reassuring in some ways.