Jake Humphrey

I mean, if you see them against an early 2000s car, 600 kilograms, those cars, right?

You take, like, a little Formula 4 car now with 160 brake horsepower, so, like...

four tiers down, the clues in the name, Formula 4 from Formula 1.

They're 600 kilos with 160 horsepower.

These things were 600 kilos with like 900 horsepower.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

These were machines.

And the big difference there was, and I don't want to underplay current Formula 1 and all the rest of it, but the big difference there was you couldn't get a 16, 17-year-old step into those cars and be quick.

Because they were just like, my God, what have I got into here?

And it took them half a season before they even got on top of it.

Times were different back then, so they could have done... You don't even get half a season now.

Yeah, you could have done 30,000 kilometers or whatever.

You get half a race for people to make their decision.

100%.

Yeah, I still think it will take a while.

I mean, it goes back to what I just said, like putting a 16, 17-year-old in these cars or in the old cars, forget about it, right?

Nobody ever did it.

They needed years, a lot more training.

It's easier now.

It's still hard, right?