Jake Malksham

And they've been pretty average outside of that.

Good against Hawthorne for most of that game.

And then last night, they were terrific.

So...

Yeah, there's an opportunity where, you know, O'Connor can run through the midfield, but I think he's a really integral part of the back line as it sits right now.

As for Mullen, I caught up with Zach Toohey a couple of weeks ago, and he said to me, that's the role he played over in garlic football.

There you go.

What he's doing at the moment.

That's how he was recruited.

Yeah, power.

Just all power.

So...

Oh, look, they've got a beauty there.

He was a slow bird for me.

He's not making great decisions in the early days, but the more confidence he's got, and I thought it was back into last year, and this year he's been... He'd be in the Cats' top five in the best and fairest right now, I would have thought, from this season.

He's had a terrific season.

Yeah, look, I never take too much notice of this, JJ, I must say, because, you know, I hear players' names of players that we look after and, you know, there's no truth in it.

So, look, the ones you mentioned, Jesse Hogan, I mean, the Giants have turned his career around.

Like, he was nowhere until he got to the Giants, so I wouldn't see him bailing any time soon.

So is this the Melbourne blueprint?