Jake Sherman

That's that's what he was.

That's that's what he was.

That's that's what he was.

Yeah, there there there's an argument to be made that he should have spent all of his political capital and all of his energy getting the tax and spending cut bill through the House and the Senate first and see where that netted out. If it gave him some economic cushion and then moved on to the rest of his agenda, he bought credibility with the business community who desperately wanted this. Yes.

Yeah, there there there's an argument to be made that he should have spent all of his political capital and all of his energy getting the tax and spending cut bill through the House and the Senate first and see where that netted out. If it gave him some economic cushion and then moved on to the rest of his agenda, he bought credibility with the business community who desperately wanted this. Yes.

Yeah, there there there's an argument to be made that he should have spent all of his political capital and all of his energy getting the tax and spending cut bill through the House and the Senate first and see where that netted out. If it gave him some economic cushion and then moved on to the rest of his agenda, he bought credibility with the business community who desperately wanted this. Yes.

And listen, at the end of the day, I do believe that all the taxes will be extended. I think he will get much of what he wants in the tax space. I don't I don't know about getting as much as what he wants in the spending space. He says he wants to balance the budget. That ain't going to happen. So I don't I don't want to mislead here. He's not going to get a balanced budget.

And listen, at the end of the day, I do believe that all the taxes will be extended. I think he will get much of what he wants in the tax space. I don't I don't know about getting as much as what he wants in the spending space. He says he wants to balance the budget. That ain't going to happen. So I don't I don't want to mislead here. He's not going to get a balanced budget.

And listen, at the end of the day, I do believe that all the taxes will be extended. I think he will get much of what he wants in the tax space. I don't I don't know about getting as much as what he wants in the spending space. He says he wants to balance the budget. That ain't going to happen. So I don't I don't want to mislead here. He's not going to get a balanced budget.

But but no, the tariff situation is is and it is as well. bad as it could be for House and Senate Republicans who are having a president do something out of their control that will directly impact them.

But but no, the tariff situation is is and it is as well. bad as it could be for House and Senate Republicans who are having a president do something out of their control that will directly impact them.

But but no, the tariff situation is is and it is as well. bad as it could be for House and Senate Republicans who are having a president do something out of their control that will directly impact them.

Right. Unbelievable. I mean, John Thune said to me or said to one of my colleagues this week said to us, I don't know what's going to happen. Mike Johnson basically said, not sure, you know, he's going to do what he's going to do.

Right. Unbelievable. I mean, John Thune said to me or said to one of my colleagues this week said to us, I don't know what's going to happen. Mike Johnson basically said, not sure, you know, he's going to do what he's going to do.

Right. Unbelievable. I mean, John Thune said to me or said to one of my colleagues this week said to us, I don't know what's going to happen. Mike Johnson basically said, not sure, you know, he's going to do what he's going to do.

Yeah. He was on one of the shows last weekend and said, you know, he has all the information in front of him. I think he's going to make the right decision. I mean, this is not the typical decision-making process that we've seen with a president, you know.

Yeah. He was on one of the shows last weekend and said, you know, he has all the information in front of him. I think he's going to make the right decision. I mean, this is not the typical decision-making process that we've seen with a president, you know.

Yeah. He was on one of the shows last weekend and said, you know, he has all the information in front of him. I think he's going to make the right decision. I mean, this is not the typical decision-making process that we've seen with a president, you know.

Completely. And there is... There is a, you know, Trump see, I don't know how he sees it, but let me put it the way I see it, which is there is tremendous benefit. And I see this in my own everyday job leading a company. There is tremendous benefit in. Getting people to buy into your plans before you announce them publicly and before you put them into place.

Completely. And there is... There is a, you know, Trump see, I don't know how he sees it, but let me put it the way I see it, which is there is tremendous benefit. And I see this in my own everyday job leading a company. There is tremendous benefit in. Getting people to buy into your plans before you announce them publicly and before you put them into place.