Jamelle Bouie

Which I'll say, beyond being, I think, evidence of someone who

maybe doesn't even understand the difference between strategy and tactics, like setting that aside, there's something actually quite disturbing about the fact that high-level American officials are talking about war as if it were a video game.

Yeah.

I think the observation that Trump does not understand people who actually believe things is so true.

I mean, there are many things wrong with him, but in terms of just political strategy and his ability to

operate in the political world.

I think this is the big one.

It leaves him ill-equipped with domestic opposition, for one, but it also leaves him ill-equipped on the foreign stage.

He thinks everyone is as pliable with treats as he is.

And they just aren't.

I think that's exactly right.

As long as there's a possibility that like suing voters in Wisconsin could deliver the country to a guy like Trump, there's you'd be you'd have to be you'd have to be delusional if you're another country to trust us for anything but the immediate short term.

Right.

Like there's just no there's no reason to.

Just just I know we want to move on to the next topic, but just to add to this and actually to be a little bit a little tiny bit exculpatory for Trump with regards to the rules based order.

You know, President Biden took a blind eye to Trump.

Israel's sort of horribly destructive war in Gaza, right?

Like as evidence mounted that the Israeli military was sort of wantonly bombing civilians in Gaza, Biden continued to provide arms.

And that as much as anything has really put a, really convinced people that the notion that there are rules that nations must follow is one of,

on the decline that the U.S.