James Brannigan

Morning Clare, how are you?

You're still shocked when you're reading it, when you see the magnitude of what happened on a systemic level across a number of statutory areas and then within the equestrian sector.

I was always aware of what was going to come from the report in relation to the equestrian sector.

But it is the police failings, the ombudsman failings, you know, the misogyny that played out where senior officers giving their accounts of why they wouldn't investigate it based on misogyny approach.

You know, it is shocking when you do read it.

It was very hard yesterday.

to be in Stormont with the family and, you know, what they're going through and the pain they're going through when they read this report of how Katie was failed on so many levels.

And as we're seeing in the charity and we see so many other people are in the same boat.

Yeah, I was, yeah.

you know I've been with them since the day and hour I linked in with them over this case and some of them are working on the chair issue with me now but it's just very tough and you know we're going to have an inquest to come which will then highlight other things but you know it's a constant reminder for the family but it should be a reminder for everybody that nothing like this should ever happen again

Yeah, and it's the concern.

I've been in talks for the last number of months with the

Horse Racing Ireland, Horse Sport Ireland, and the British Horse Racing Authority because of what was going on at the ISO, what was going on within the equine industry.

And it's not to just come down hard on the equine industry.

There's some great people in it.

Katie loved this industry, but something needs to be done to develop better safeguarding in it because that's where the fertile ground was for

for Jonathan Creswell to abuse these victims.

And for argument's sake, the prime example is this, when he was locked up for six months for a vicious attack on his previous girlfriend, the hunt that he was associated to in Armagh had a welcoming home party for him when he got out of jail.

Yeah, when you look at her murder, and I always go back to this, you look at it at a macro level.

She was a semi-naked lady in a car covered in bruises.