James Chandler

They make judgment calls on all of podcasts.

Is that sitting behind your beef?

My gentle challenge would be I see it differently.

I don't think that we're going to be in a world where all podcasts are going to be made by companies like Inception Point AI.

I think there's room for both.

But I think there is this kind of niche that it's catering for.

But I don't think it's going to be everything.

I don't think I'd want to live in a world where everything is made by AI.

That said, humans are all right, and there's some amazing podcasts.

There's some crap podcasts out there as well, which are getting zero listens, that are made in bedrooms, people wanging on for three hours about something that they think someone's interested in.

No one really is.

So I'm not sure if we've got it perfect.

I think...

And I think about lots of other technologies.

I think about other founders.

I think about businesses that come along, challenge the status quo, quite disruptive.

It can look quite reckless at the start.

It makes people really uncomfortable.

And I think the fact that she goes to an industry conference about podcasting and gets heckled, I think take a look at ourselves.

Surely these places are where we should be rewarding bravery.