James Dillon

Whatever Siobhan said convinced the 13-year-old that there was sexual contact.

Give her a tape recorder, show her how to use it and talk to Siobhan.

Don't put any words in her mouth.

Just say, do you remember what we were talking about the other day?

I just have a few little questions for you around that.

Tell me again what you were saying.

He took a picture with his camera and the picture comes out of the camera.

He showed it to me and I was in my underwear and he said, would your mammy be happy if she saw this picture?

Because I'll put it on the dashboard of my car.

And when she's walking home, she'll see it.

And they'll know you were in here like that.

And I want you not to talk to anybody.

Don't tell anybody.

I just knew at that second, this is an adult manipulating a child.

I don't know what he did.

But he didn't go to those lengths for nothing.

And from that moment, I definitely believed that he was a paedophile and that he had been interfering with the children.

The next step was to decide how best to deal with this, given the fact that Eamon Cook was dangerous.

When you say dangerous... He was quite threatening.

You know, he cut down the aerials of the competitors, always making himself out to be quite sinister, which he actually was.