James Gunn

I mean, first of all, Kevin and Lou, the guys who are in charge, are just really just great guys.

Kevin Feige and Lou D'Esposito.

Yeah.

They're great guys.

I really love them.

And they really care about the movies, you know, but sometimes they get over, you know, I mean, like they're trying to get things all back on path.

They got overwhelmed with, you know, Disney coming out with streaming and then saying we needed a million things this year.

Right.

And it just became too much to quality control.

It was down to him and corn sweat.

Well, I didn't.

I mean, again, it was a thing of they came to me with Superman, you know, many years ago.

And I was like, I don't know.

I just had a hard time imagining what it was going to be.

And Peter Safran, who's been my partner, he started out as my manager in 1998 and has since become my producing partner.

You know, it's his dream, it was his dream to make a Superman movie, always.

And so he was always bringing it up, always just bullying me about it.

And eventually, you know, I just kind of kept playing it in my head.

It was like a math problem I'm trying to solve.

Like, how could Superman work?