James Harkin

Isn't that nuts?

Is this research you did in episode one of No Such Thing as a Fish that you're finally getting to use?

I've been trying to get this in every episode since episode one.

Well, I think it's fantastic.

We still get houses made out of wood, buildings made out of wood.

Wooden skyscrapers are known as plyscrapers.

And you get those all around the world.

There's a 20-story one in Sweden.

There's a 25-story one in Milwaukee.

And in London, they're talking about building one called the Oakwood Tower.

which will be 300 metres high, will be in Barbican, not Oakwood, which is quite confusing.

But they're going to build this big wooden tower, apparently.

That's insane.

How wooden are we talking?

Are the lifts made of wood?

So it's the structure.

So where you would have steel beams that are holding everything together, you would have...

wooden beams.

And then like the panels, you would have like plywood panels, I guess.

And the reason is that actually wood is very good for the environment, weirdly enough, better than concrete.