James Hibbard (Reporter)

Mark Sands, his running buddy and hiking partner.

Mark Sands, his running buddy and hiking partner.

The guy he sat next to at church while they poured over a copy of the Phoenix New Times interview with the arsonist.

The guy he sat next to at church while they poured over a copy of the Phoenix New Times interview with the arsonist.

Next time on The Arsonist Next Door, Mark Sands has been hiding some dark secrets, and his best friend Warren is pulled into a spiral of lies.

Next time on The Arsonist Next Door, Mark Sands has been hiding some dark secrets, and his best friend Warren is pulled into a spiral of lies.

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The Arsonist Next Door is an original production of Sony Music Entertainment and Novel. This series was written and reported by me, Sam Anderson. It was produced and reported by Leona Hamid. Our assistant producer is Madeline Parr. Research by Zayana Youssef. Additional production from Tom Wright and G. Stiles. Our editor is Dave Anderson. Additional story editing from Max O'Brien.

The Arsonist Next Door is an original production of Sony Music Entertainment and Novel. This series was written and reported by me, Sam Anderson. It was produced and reported by Leona Hamid. Our assistant producer is Madeline Parr. Research by Zayana Youssef. Additional production from Tom Wright and G. Stiles. Our editor is Dave Anderson. Additional story editing from Max O'Brien.

From Novel, our executive producers are Max O'Brien and Craig Strachan. From Sony Music Entertainment, our executive producers are Catherine St. Louis and Jonathan Hirsch. Sound design, mixing, and scoring by Nicholas Alexander and Daniel Kempson. Our original theme song was composed and performed by Nicholas Alexander.

From Novel, our executive producers are Max O'Brien and Craig Strachan. From Sony Music Entertainment, our executive producers are Catherine St. Louis and Jonathan Hirsch. Sound design, mixing, and scoring by Nicholas Alexander and Daniel Kempson. Our original theme song was composed and performed by Nicholas Alexander.

Production management from Cherie Houston, Joe Savage, Sarah Tobin, and Charlotte Wolfe. Fact Checking by Dania Suleiman. Story Development by Nell Gray Andrews. Novels Director of Development is Selena Mehta. And Willard Foxton is Novels Creative Director of Development.

Production management from Cherie Houston, Joe Savage, Sarah Tobin, and Charlotte Wolfe. Fact Checking by Dania Suleiman. Story Development by Nell Gray Andrews. Novels Director of Development is Selena Mehta. And Willard Foxton is Novels Creative Director of Development.

Special thanks to Jen Fifield, Libby Goff, Bob Kahn, Xander Adams, Anthony Wallace, Steve Ackerman, Carolyn Sher-Levin and the team at Reviewed and Cleared, Mario Cacciatolo, Isaac Fisher, Kevin Lee Carras, Jess Swinburne, Sonny Marr, Carly Frankel, and the team at WME.

Special thanks to Jen Fifield, Libby Goff, Bob Kahn, Xander Adams, Anthony Wallace, Steve Ackerman, Carolyn Sher-Levin and the team at Reviewed and Cleared, Mario Cacciatolo, Isaac Fisher, Kevin Lee Carras, Jess Swinburne, Sonny Marr, Carly Frankel, and the team at WME.

If you're picturing something like from a movie where everyone kind of gathers in an office and they shut the door and hunker over this letter like it's from the Zodiac Killer, that's pretty much what it was like. They're crowded around a table, reading a letter. At the top of the letter was, Thou shall not desecrate God's creation.

If you're picturing something like from a movie where everyone kind of gathers in an office and they shut the door and hunker over this letter like it's from the Zodiac Killer, that's pretty much what it was like. They're crowded around a table, reading a letter. At the top of the letter was, Thou shall not desecrate God's creation.

And in the letter, he talked about trying to call the New Times after reading Burn, Baby, Burn, and he couldn't get through.

And in the letter, he talked about trying to call the New Times after reading Burn, Baby, Burn, and he couldn't get through.