James Holland

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So welcome to We Have Ways of Making You Talk with me, Al Murray and James Holland for our third part in the story of the Naval Battle of Norway.

And this episode three is called Annihilation.

So I don't want to give anything away.

And as we've seen, there's been this dash versus dither towards action in Norway.

The Germans dashing to it in an ill-conceived manner.

The British finally making up their minds and purely coincidentally for basically the same day.

It's absolutely extraordinary.

That also shows how naval operations are bound by weather and possible tide and ice and all this.

And moon.

And moon and all this.

Anyway, we haven't quite got to know it yet, but we had our extraordinary, dramatic encounter of the glowworm fighting, ramming the Admiral Hipper.

And then the...

I'm going to call it idiotic loss of the Blucher.

Yeah, and the Poles, of course.

Yes, we haven't forgotten the Poles in the Orzel.