James Holland

And for those... You remember we talked about this, this mastery of the radio media in the 1930s, which Hitler does very well as well and Goebbels and so on in Nazi Germany.

But Roosevelt is also a master of this.

And what he adopts, which no one has ever done before him in America, is have this cozy kind of folksy, it's just you and I, we're chatting together in a room.

I'm explaining stuff in kind of sort of plain language.

I'm not using fancy acronyms and political jargon and business jargon.

I'm just talking to you like a fellow American citizen.

And this is what he does.

So he paves the way for Lend-Lease.

What's really interesting is he does the more technical bit

in the informal press conference and the cozy fireside chat, and then does the high morals when he does his State of the Nation address to Congress on the 6th of January 1941, which was the opening speech that we started this episode with.

And I think that's really, really interesting that he does it in that order.

And, of course, in this fireside chat, it is the line where he says, you know, if we want America to stay out of the war, which we do, which I'm absolutely not going to do, but I'm saying we are, then we must harness our industrial power to assist the Allies.

And what we can do is we can create lots of jobs and money in America.

We'll make us rich on it.

But we must be the great arsenal of democracy.

So that's when he says those immortal words.

That phrase emerges on that speech, that fireside chat, the 29th of December, 1940.

And I think the three speeches together are really, really important.

Yeah.

So you've had the kind of the dangle of lend-lease in the press conference in the middle of December.