James King

Oh, I'm doing great, Steve.

And it's always great when we have this guest, especially this one, because I can really sit back and just let him talk.

He will talk and talk.

No, you don't grow same inside your comfort zone.

You have to push the limit.

You know, putting yourself out there, I always have this saying is, today they will laugh at you, tomorrow they'll ask for your advice.

That is, you know, pushing the boundaries, trying new things.

You can really sit on the sideline and

nitpick everything that Swans does.

Or, and not move.

And then you're comfortable, but again, you're not moving, you're not growing.

Or you can go out there, you know, bumble your way through things, make mistakes, learn from them, grow.

Say, hey, that didn't work.

Let's pivot.

Let's add this.

Oh, hey, can we do this?

Can we incorporate this?

That's where systems grow, where we grow as humans is in the weeds and doing the work and not saying, well,

We did it this way, so we always have to do it this way.

One of my favorite questions I always ask is, why are we doing it that way?