James King

Do they have the proper IDE for them?

Do they have the access to the resources and the repositories and all that stuff?

That's our role now, thinking as managers, leaders.

Not that, okay, got this system or this project moving forward, it's going through stages, cool, I'm done.

put a bow on that, go on the next one and keep moving.

Well, I guess let me say this.

My thought process was when I started out, you know, I was in high school and stuff.

I actually envisioned myself getting into some kind of management position.

not like a CIO.

I'm not ruling any of that out, but like I saw myself getting into some kind of management position.

So I guess I can, I always saw myself going that way.

I really like the truth.

I went to school.

I want to, I want to be in, I wanted to be a network administrator.

I really like, I understood that while I was in school, taking my classes and, you know, I got into,

Some programming classes.

So I did some program.

I enjoyed it.

But I always told myself I didn't want to do this day in, day out.

That was just me.