James King

Give people an opportunity to experiment, and I'm sure that there are times where they are not successful.

Can you talk about some of those learning experiences?

Yeah, I love all the things you're saying.

How much does formal training come into play?

Are you sending any of the students to get a CTS or learn from any of the manufacturer training that's out there?

Really fascinating and amazing progress.

This is a conversation that I think more and more schools need to have and more of the industry needs to be aware of.

James, what are your thoughts about how we could create more visibility around this?

that truly applies to business in general.

I mean, you know, I think that you're, I think we talk about all the time that if you're not making mistakes, you're not growing.

And there's, for people who don't allow themselves to take risk and take chances, they're really never going to

go any further than what they're currently doing today.

In fact, they're probably going to shrink because they're going to be more and more fearful of doing something wrong and it almost freezes you.

So I can relate to that in so many different ways.

Jameson, I'm curious what percentage, and I don't know if you could tell or approximate this, of the student workers go on to either pursue an opportunity with your team or go into AV in general?

And is this something that...

the industry can look toward, because I've always thought that, you know, student workers could really get interested in this if they stuck with it and did it enough.

And like you said, there's careers out there that people could really get, you know, become passionate about.

That's a great lead-in.

There's so much of an on-ramp to figuring out how to get into programming and most people want to learn it and want to understand it.