James Mangold

No. Well, of course, there's something to lose in the sense that this is going to be a large scale, high profile.

No. Well, of course, there's something to lose in the sense that this is going to be a large scale, high profile.

No, I think he has enough distance that he's comfortable talking about them. But I also think he... He was also honest in what he doesn't know. I mean, he really, even as of 2020, when I was talking to him about this, didn't really understand why everyone freaked out so much and why, meaning there was a level... At the time.

No, I think he has enough distance that he's comfortable talking about them. But I also think he... He was also honest in what he doesn't know. I mean, he really, even as of 2020, when I was talking to him about this, didn't really understand why everyone freaked out so much and why, meaning there was a level... At the time.

No, I think he has enough distance that he's comfortable talking about them. But I also think he... He was also honest in what he doesn't know. I mean, he really, even as of 2020, when I was talking to him about this, didn't really understand why everyone freaked out so much and why, meaning there was a level... At the time.

Yes, which you could say is disingenuous with historical perspective looking back. Right. But when you transport yourself, as I had with the research, into that moment, you're kind of... It does occur to you that... There's a whole series of interpersonal bargains and agreements and commitments that have been made and set in place between these characters that would make Bob confused.

Yes, which you could say is disingenuous with historical perspective looking back. Right. But when you transport yourself, as I had with the research, into that moment, you're kind of... It does occur to you that... There's a whole series of interpersonal bargains and agreements and commitments that have been made and set in place between these characters that would make Bob confused.

Yes, which you could say is disingenuous with historical perspective looking back. Right. But when you transport yourself, as I had with the research, into that moment, you're kind of... It does occur to you that... There's a whole series of interpersonal bargains and agreements and commitments that have been made and set in place between these characters that would make Bob confused.

For instance, Bob never promised not to play rock and roll. He never, I mean, one thing he was very clear to me about was that he never, the way we each imagine our careers when we're 18, 19 years old, he never imagined himself as being The musician he imagined in his mind's eye was, sure, Woody Guthrie, but also Buddy Holly. Sure, Pete Seeger, but also Little Richard.

For instance, Bob never promised not to play rock and roll. He never, I mean, one thing he was very clear to me about was that he never, the way we each imagine our careers when we're 18, 19 years old, he never imagined himself as being The musician he imagined in his mind's eye was, sure, Woody Guthrie, but also Buddy Holly. Sure, Pete Seeger, but also Little Richard.

For instance, Bob never promised not to play rock and roll. He never, I mean, one thing he was very clear to me about was that he never, the way we each imagine our careers when we're 18, 19 years old, he never imagined himself as being The musician he imagined in his mind's eye was, sure, Woody Guthrie, but also Buddy Holly. Sure, Pete Seeger, but also Little Richard.

He carried all of that in his mind on his way to New York. So the idea from the moment he took the stage at Gertie's Folk City or the Gaslight, that he had... According to some kind of dogma or tribunal kind of pledge... Folk dogma. Yeah, that he had pledged to never make something different in his life was completely bizarre to him.

He carried all of that in his mind on his way to New York. So the idea from the moment he took the stage at Gertie's Folk City or the Gaslight, that he had... According to some kind of dogma or tribunal kind of pledge... Folk dogma. Yeah, that he had pledged to never make something different in his life was completely bizarre to him.

He carried all of that in his mind on his way to New York. So the idea from the moment he took the stage at Gertie's Folk City or the Gaslight, that he had... According to some kind of dogma or tribunal kind of pledge... Folk dogma. Yeah, that he had pledged to never make something different in his life was completely bizarre to him.

And he would never... I mean, and he had never made such a commitment in his mind. His point of view about his ascendance as a folk star in a solo act was that that's what happened. And therefore, of course... I had no money and no notoriety. And so I took what happened.

And he would never... I mean, and he had never made such a commitment in his mind. His point of view about his ascendance as a folk star in a solo act was that that's what happened. And therefore, of course... I had no money and no notoriety. And so I took what happened.

And he would never... I mean, and he had never made such a commitment in his mind. His point of view about his ascendance as a folk star in a solo act was that that's what happened. And therefore, of course... I had no money and no notoriety. And so I took what happened.

He had the beauty of total singularity. Yes.

He had the beauty of total singularity. Yes.

He had the beauty of total singularity. Yes.