James McCann

Before the empire, you were what, a pirate state?

There was nothing going for, in terms of world importance before the 1500s, what did Britain, there was no great towers, there were no great marble things, there was no top hats and-

Mary Poppins type behavior.

It's all built on the wealth of empire.

And you give up the empire and you go, why is it all falling apart?

It's because you're not extracting wealth from Africa.

You think we should bring back colonialism?

I think you have to choose between being a great country and accepting a mediocre place in the world.

And sadly, that would require a lot of violence.

But you're going to become the Singapore of Europe?

Switzerland's already done that.

You're not going to get all the banking.

No?

Switzerland has an independence to it that...

The Brits don't even want.

You're so pleased to be, you have European continental ideology.

So who should we colonize, do you think?

It's a great question.

I haven't decided yet.

Certainly Normandy, you have a historical right to.