James McCann

Generally, that is a major part.

The fact that we don't have a religion, which leaves a vacuum at the heart of culture.

Yeah.

Which therefore means that there's nothing that we all agree on.

Whereas here, they do have the Constitution.

And there is like a weird love of the Constitution here that I've never encountered anywhere else.

Like the founding fathers are sort of saints.

You don't go against the founding fathers.

The constitution is a beautiful document and must be respected and can't just be removed.

I mean, you guys don't even have it.

And we've got one, but it's very boring.

It's just a, you know, how much does the governor general get paid per year?

There's not a lot of rights enclosed in the Australian constitution, except by like the penumbra of, well, they have a freedom of religion, so freedom of speech is...

Do you want a freedom of speech in the UK?

Yeah.

Do you want that enshrined by law or do you want that as a norm?

Yes.

They would disagree here.

But you've lost the norm of free speech in the UK.

Yes.