James Mirtle

And the Jarvis pick wasn't even their pick.

It was a draft pick that they poached out of Toronto and made it.

Yeah.

I mean, they do have some guys, Slavin and Blake, and they have some players that they picked with second, third, fourth-round picks, and that's great to find value there.

But in general, you look at how Carolina and Vegas are built,

They found free agents that were undervalued.

They made trades with other teams and they won those trades.

And that's how their teams were put together.

And it wasn't really a traditional kind of rebuild through the draft the way we think of other teams doing.

Yeah, yeah.

And I mean, that's, if you read my preview of the series, I wrote about why Carolina was having such a good year.

And in that story, Eric Tufke said that part of why they can find undervalued players is they know exactly what they're looking for and the kind of way that they play.

And they know players – he said Stan Coleman's a good example where they might be undervalued in other organizations, but they know that with the way that they play, they're going to fit in.

And an example that Tulsky used was, you know, some teams are looking to play, you know, more of like a net front defense, and they're going to want bigger defensemen and more physical defensemen.

And that's not the way that Carolina plays.

They're playing more of a man-to-man style, and they want to have more of a skating and puck –

puck pressure and aggressive kind of system where they can have it.

So they want, they'll value players more like let's say Sean Walker and Shane Costas pair and some of the defensemen that they've got over, I don't know.

And I mean, Vegas is kind of, you know, the Braden McNabs, you know, and so Carolina is looking for a different kind of a player.

And that's part of why they're able to identify someone, I think like Stankoven five foot eight,