James Moore

Other people, it'll be a tactical appeal.

Other people, it'll be popping the balloon of the fairy tale that you're going to become a 51st state and have, you know, all the blessings of the upside of being an American state.

Like different arguments will find purchase with different people coming from different voices and articulated in different ways.

There's nothing wrong in the early stages of sort of,

Let all those arguments set flight.

And with different people, different arguments will land.

And there's nothing wrong with that.

And for some people, when you get to when you do exit interviews of people coming out of the ballot stations on on referendum day, when they come out and say, you know, how did you vote?

And they'll say, well, why did you vote the way you did?

You said, well, you know, I read this piece or somebody will say, I just don't think now is the time or somebody will say because we have to.

And I think that it's fine to have different levels of volume.

It's fine to have different generations of voices, different approaches to this, because you don't know what will work with different people.

And I think that part of that, and I think there's actually a lot of humility in what Jason is trying to do, that he's high EQ.

He recognizes that he doesn't connect with a lot of people, but he wants other people who might connect with other people to stand up and find their voice and get in the game.

Yeah, no matter how I have this saying, again, as part of my sort of conservative DNA, right, which is no matter how bad things are, it's always possible for things to get worse.

And, you know, it is possible that there are voices from outside of Alberta who say, I get the hell out of here.

And enough of you.

You know, the conservative movement has been effectively led by Albertans for 30 years.

You had Stephen Harper as prime minister for nine years.

You can get momentum.