James O'Keefe
Appearances
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
No one's ever seen this before. I get sent this, I'm like, holy shit.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Yeah, it turns out I was up against all these people who were financially aligned. We can pause it right there, Ron.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
The problem was nobody was willing to be on my board. The people that I trusted and respected the most said, I can't be on your board. I'll write you a hundred thousand dollar check. I'm just not going to be on the board. This is a nonprofit tax deductible money. Someone even wrote us a half a million dollar check, but he says, I can't be on your board because I, you know, it's too risky for me.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
The liabilities, Pat, the liabilities of what I do approach infinity, right? I've been sued dozens of times. There's no, at least not yet, I hope to make it sustainable and profitable. There's no profit in this. You can't become wealthy doing this. Why? Because you get sued so much. And the legal fees on the balance sheet, the liabilities always outweigh the assets.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Yes, he is.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
So you have to be a little nuts, at least in the right way. to do this.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
In certain ways, I am. But the problem is self-interest is a very powerful motivator for people. And the instinct for self-preservation is extremely powerful. So when you get raided by the FBI, which we were in 2021, a year before this happened, and you're getting sued by everybody, the problem is if you're not messianic, if you're not mission-driven...
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Corruption... Why would you let them be on your board? So that was my mistake. That was my mistake. I did not discern this. And I had a founder's board. I knew these guys from 10 years prior, right? When I was scrapping, when I had nothing. And they were willing. So the mistake that I made is they were willing to be on the board. And I said, okay. And I couldn't find anybody.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
The hardest thing about what I... How many do you need? What's that?
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
501c3s require a minimum of three, but you really should have five optically.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I had three at Project Veritas, 501c3, and then I had three at 501c4, and they combined the boards when they did this. They just put everyone on the same board.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
There were only three board members when they did this, and it was a two-to-one vote. Just a two-to-one vote. Who was the one? Well, I was the third board member, so I was opposed, of course, to this. So it was Tiermont and Garvey, John Garvey. And then they combined the other board, which was George Skakel and Joe Barton and a man named Steve Alemich, who's now deceased. So it became 4-1.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
It became 5-1. 5-1.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Excuse me, 4-2 when Steve Alemich voted against it.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
He actually committed suicide. You can't make this stuff up. It was a four to two vote when they combined the boards and they voted to indefinitely suspend.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
It was within the year after this happened.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I don't know. It may be unrelated. I don't know.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Absolutely, and there should be some clips in this film to back up what I'm saying. As you know, I like to make factual statements. Matthew Terremond was the number one orchestrator, the top guy. And you want to take you through a little bit of each of these guys. Matt Tierman, I was on a boat in the Bahamas, Pat, about eight, nine years ago with a big, big supporter, big philanthropist.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And he said to me, you have to be aware of this man. I said, why? He said, because this man is incredibly jealous of you, James. And he wants to be you. You need to get him off your board. Now, at the time, I didn't know what that meant. I was like, oh, what does that mean? He admires me? I didn't have any life experience to inform me what could happen to someone who wants to be you.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
But apparently people saying this guy was very envious. He wanted to, you know, to be me or to... have what I have, whatever that, we could talk about that. That's Matthew Tierman, the guy who orchestrated everything. And there are some insane, pornographic, obscene messages he sent me.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Now, Matthew Tierman was soliciting the board members to put money into his companies, that he was his for-profit Wall Street. He worked on Wall Street. He has an economics degree from the University of Chicago. His father was a famous Polish anti-communist dissident. A lot of these guys had fathers who were wealthy and famous. So one theory is that they lived in the shadow of their fathers.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
We could talk more about him in a minute. There's George Skakel who we've been talking about. There's a man named Joseph Barton. There's federal deposition clips of him in the film. Joe Barton said some pretty crazy things in his deposition. He said, I'm not entitled to a private life. So these guys were publishing messages about my personal life with my girlfriend.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
There's a man named John Garvey who is about to be deposed. He hasn't yet been deposed. And then there's Steve Alembic who committed suicide. Those are the board members.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
These guys have been obsessively, I mean obsessively, posting and tweeting on X about me nonstop for the last two years. Crazy stuff. Demonic stuff. You wouldn't even believe me unless I pulled it up on the screen.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
You're referring to in the film, these are some of the employees. Now again, at Project Nerdist, people don't realize, when I came on your show, we had like 65, 70 employees. That's a lot of people. And you saw about 12 or so were acting in this demonic way. You're referring to... A couple of the younger employees who were behaving like this. So they came in the boardroom.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
They said, O'Keefe's a mean boss. He yelled at me one time. He's a power drunk tyrant. And then a week later, they would send me an Instagram. I'm so sorry. I feel horrible for what I did. I never should have done this. And then like a few months later, they're calling me. I can't even say it on the air, but horrible. you know, expletive words on the DMs.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Yeah, so they're on the verge of bankruptcy. When I was raising $2 million a month, $24 million a year, that's a lot of money to raise as a nonprofit. Remember, there's no annuities. You have to ask people for money. Constantly. And when they got rid of me, the donations just stopped. Everybody wanted their money back.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And in that board meeting, I had one trump card because these guys were – it was like a struggle session. They just wanted to make me feel abused. It was a lot of envy and just petty human things that – this is not unique. It happens in a lot of organizations. But to your point, what are they going to do if they get rid of the guy who's – raising all the funds.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
They didn't have an answer and they didn't care. Now in the movie, I noticed your producer had that 54 minute movie. If you can find this moment where it's about three quarters of the way through towards the end of that board meeting, that's the guy, Matthew Tierman. You just saw him on the screen right there. There was a quote that's incredibly important.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And I said, point of order, what are you guys going to do? Because that's the trump card I had. What's your plan? Okay, you want to lash me, you want to crucify me, you want to make me feel abused. And Tierman says something, and I hope he can pull it up, that same guy, he goes, we have 65 employees. We're going to be fine without James O'Keefe. They actually believed, or they wanted to believe.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Not for a product like this. But you see, that's so interesting about human nature, isn't it? Because when you're that envious, when you're that resentful, when you're that deluded, There it is right there.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
65 employees. You just passed a moment ago. My question is, what is the plan of if you implement this solution?
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
There it is. So they actually believed that there wouldn't be any lost output on the margins. Literally the exact opposite happened. Every donor wanted their money back. Nobody trusted anything they had to say. Now they believed, but content is king. Our journalism matters. But the problem, what they failed to understand is investigative journalism is all about trust.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And if you behave like this, nobody's going to trust anything that you report. And I think that's what they failed to understand. But Matthew Tiramont actually believed that Project Veritas didn't need James O'Keefe anymore.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
The revenue, you mean? Yes. Zero. Negative equity. There was one individual, I can't name the donors under the Freedom of Association under the First Amendment, but one donor said, I want my $1 million check back. The chief financial officer said, it's unlawful for us to return your check. That's not true. The donors wanted their money back, so they went deeply into debt.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
So when I left, there was somewhere around $10 million in cash and no debt. No debt. And now they're like $2 million in debt with no cash.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And your audience might be wondering, well, why can't O'Keefe talk about the specifics of the negotiations? Because I promised the court I won't, and I'm a man of my word. On settlement negotiations, you can't talk about the details. I can talk about the proceedings. That's public.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I just can't talk about the details of the so-called settlement, the talks of acquiring or getting the information back. All I can tell you is that I'm in talks to reacquire Project Veritas.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Thank you for having me. This film I've released, The Truth Inside Veritas, takes you inside of Project Veritas, which fired me two and a half years ago. And it shows you what happened at the board meeting where they were throwing all these grievances out at me. You hear the grievances, you meet the employees, and you meet this board member in federal court because they sued me. So they fired me.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Because we had filmed a video in front of that brick wall backdrop. We literally, brick by brick, rebuilt the Project Veritas studio here in West Palm Beach, Florida, where I now live, because I was imminently about to announce that I'm reacquiring Project Veritas.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I'm allowed to. There is no... There's no trademark of the logo. In fact, I've applied for the trademark myself. So I'm allowed to use it. I'm allowed to report. The same reason I'm allowed to report on the court proceedings, for sure.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Yeah.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
A couple things. Number one, you can watch the movie O'KeefeMediaGroup.com. It's $9. People say, why are you charging for journalism? Well, most of the journalism I don't charge for but I think this movie is incredibly cinematic. I know you watched it yesterday. It's an incredible experience, and it's a really story about human nature. This is about human nature. How do I build an organization?
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
It's not really a business. I mean, it is a business, but it's a mission. How do you create a sustainable entity, a team of people, going after the most powerful people in the world, which I will continue to do. We're about to talk about Epstein and all these other things I'm doing right now. How do you build that?
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
without it getting corrupted, without people lying about you to the FBI to protect their families, right? These are really hard questions that I haven't yet fully figured out yet. I'm learning. I'm experimenting. Nobody does this. So I'm trying to create a sustainable organization that can do it at scale.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And to be fired from the company that I created and to build something from nothing, you mentioned in the film, George Cagle says, you can't afford my house. That statement said so much about him, didn't it? Anybody who says that, you can't afford my house, I don't know if you can play that real quick. It's all the way at the end, Rob. This is the thing that actually struck people the most.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Of all the things in the film, It's the very last like thing that happens in the movie. This really struck people. And it says so much about the character of these people. It's about like 30- Yeah, they're literally standing.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Play it. We're loyal to each other. George, were you an investor in the same company as Matt Kiermaier?
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And they indefinitely suspended me without pay, a.k.a. terminated me. So I just started a new organization called OMG O'Keefe Media Group, which I've been doing. And then they sued me to try to shut OMG down. So in this deposition footage, in the videotapes from federal court, depositions are public proceedings. I took the depositions, I put them in the movie, and you see what happened.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
You're a liar. It's all about money, isn't it? It's all about money. Because I'm not a business guy, it's all about money, isn't it? This was one of my closest associates. It was almost like an uncle to me. And unfortunately, I think I would say the last comment is, I don't know whether the commercial imperative, the profit-making mechanism, is compatible with absolute truth-telling.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
When I watch the people closest to... I mean, this guy was an uncular figure. His wife was like my second mother. And money just unfortunately tends to corrupt. So that's a deeper, more philosophical concept. I just wanted to get that out and tell you that I'm working on it. And I think the solution is to find really strong people with really strong convictions who are not for sale...
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And unbreakable. And if I can surround myself with those types of people, I think we'll be okay.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I believe there is.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
As long as we comment. It's on YouTube Shorts without music, too, whichever your preference is.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
See if you can find it.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
It's without music. I mean, the music adds a... It adds something to it. You feel like you want to cry. Yeah. There it is. Is that the one? That's it without music. Okay, go for it, Rob. Is it $10 million? Is it $20 million? What is your price? Is it $10 million? Is it $20 million? Is it a hundred million? What is your price? Because if your price is not your life, then you are for sale.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
If your price is not your life, then you are for sale. So if you're going to be a truth teller, your price has to be your life. I can't surround myself with people whose price is not their life. Because the enemy, whatever the enemy is, whether it be physical, legal, spiritual, will attack the vulnerability of the person who can be compromised.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
So you get real spiritual real fast if you're going to do this type of work.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
It's a very interesting... Yeah, this one, and I remember, Vin, you DMed me. I appreciate that very much. You were very touched by this. Yeah, big time. At the time, people were, you could hear the murmurs in the crowd. These are men twice my age. Yes. Just a simple statement. They're like, whoa. Yeah. What a concept. Oh. Yeah. I mean, this is not, you know, these are, these are.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And it's an insane story. It's a crazy story.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
There have been a couple times in meetings where people have, the closest thing I could say, whereas a person of wealth would ask me to do something. And I would say, I can't, I can't, this is not an exchange of goods and services. I can't do something in exchange for you paying me to do it. That's not how I work as a journalist. I have to operate impartially without fear.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And when the person realized where I was coming from, they kind of backed off. They're like, oh, no, that's okay. I almost feel like they're concerned that I'm going to record them trying to bribe me, which I would. Of course, that's who you are. So when they realized, when they danced on that precipice and they realized where I was coming from, I think they realized, oh, Keith could expose me.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And to their credit, they back off. And there's that interesting dance where maybe they're in their minds trying to corrupt me, but they then realize I could expose them. So there's been that.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I don't even know anymore. I'd say the truth... I did a story on Pam Bondi. That's exactly what I'm doing with this. I took a hit. I think I tell stories by way of example because I think it's better than abstractions. I did a story on the Attorney General of the United States. That was hard for me because I don't dislike her or like her. It's not about whether I like someone or dislike them.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
It's about whether the public has a right to know the information I'm exposing. I tend to have been branded as a conservative only because I felt the legacy media in the last decade and two decades has been not telling the truth. And if you do tell the truth, then you're branded as a right winger. But I don't even know what these terms mean anymore.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I really don't know what it means to be a liberal or conservative anymore. Do you? I don't understand.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I'm a very strong First Amendment. Perhaps one could say absolutist. on the First Amendment, with some exceptions. So I would say I believe in, for example, one of my values and virtues is I believe in equal justice before the law. I think the law should, I know that it's impossible, but we should try to emulate this. The law should treat people equally.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Some would say that's a conservative value, right? That's an American and quite conservative value. And I also believe in the freedom of speech. And I'm an absolutist when it comes to that.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Yes, yes.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Correct.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I don't know if you want me to narrate live as opposed to watching me on the screen narrate. What's better to do? Perhaps we go to the beginning of where you see Pam Bondi on the hidden camera. So I'll just talk live what I said on the camera. Okay. So there she is at the White House. Go back to the beginning of that clip of her. Okay.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
That was a tough one for me to publish because I – you asked if I'm political, and I think I'm – you have to decide who you want to be. Are you a political operative or are you a journalist? And to be a journalist, it's hard because you have to do things like this. Pam Bondi –
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
was caught in a restaurant telling a stranger, a nanny, on April 28th or so that there are tens of thousands of videos involving little children. Now, I didn't target her. I didn't seek to get this. People send me stuff. Sometimes I've undercover people all over the country, and they happen to get a conversation in the airport. I get sent this. I'm like, holy shit. This is not public.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Yeah, this is the biggest story ever. This is the biggest story, guys, at the peak. The director, the mRNA director of scientific research at Pfizer talking about mutating the virus at Pfizer. This video was viewed... an insane amount of times, I confront this guy. If you remember this, I confronted him with a microphone and he physically assaulted me. That's right, I remember that.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
The Attorney General of the United States, and by the way, Cash, I believe the FBI reports to her, so this is the top dog, is saying to a nanny... In a restaurant, something that no one knows. And to me, I'm like, well, that's an interesting story, is it not? So I do what I have to do. I reach out to the attorney general's office for comment.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I say, you know, Pam Bondi, the attorney general of the United States, was caught in a restaurant saying, and I actually wonder whether I should have done that. I probably did him a favor by giving them the exact quotes. And then a few days later, she says the exact same thing publicly that I emailed the attorney general's office for comment saying it played the clip before at the White House.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
This is what she's in.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Now this is the first time an official has publicly acknowledged that videos of Epstein and his victims exist. What you may not know is just nine days prior, the Attorney General had a very similar conversation with a total stranger in a restaurant.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
So it's interesting because she said it privately in a restaurant to publicly publicly publicly in a restaurant not privately and to me it's like that's something something so i felt like i had to publish this now if she hadn't gone publicly and said this and i had released this clip in the restaurant it would have been a much much much bigger deal but it does raise questions doesn't it
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Why are they not being transparent with the American people? Why are they telling a nanny in a restaurant? So it raises questions to your point about Cash. I know Cash a little bit. I think he is a good man, and I mean that based upon what I know about him. I don't know Dan as much, but I also think he's a good man. I don't trust the bureaucracy that reports to them.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And if you put any good man, the most ethical person at the top of that bureaucracy, I think you're setting them up for failure. Let me give you a specific example of where I'm coming from. I was raided by the FBI shortly before I met you. The FBI pointed guns at me and took my reporter's notebooks. They just recently closed the case against me a few months ago, the FBI, in February of this year.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And they gave me back my phones that they had for three and a half years. When you get a search warrant to conduct a raid, you have to go to a judge, right, with a reason. Oh, we have this probable cause, the reasons why to raid. When you close a case, which is very rare for the FBI to execute a search warrant and not bring charges. It hardly ever happens.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
You are required by law to give a copy of the probable cause. That is the reason why you conducted the raid. Guess what they did? They redacted every single word of the probable cause used to raid my newsroom. Every word. Maybe your producer can pull it up on Google or something. Every word. There's a black bar, Pat.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And he took the iPad out of my hand and he smashed it on the ground. This is the gay date, the gay guy at Pfizer. YouTube took it down. It's still on X. And he's talking about directed evolution at Pfizer, something that Pfizer denies, but he says it. He's a director at the company. And we released this video, and I confirmed I'm in a restaurant in New York City.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
through it's a it's a it's a it's ridiculous it's literally black bars we're not talking about terrorists we're not talking about jeff epstein we're not talking about child molesters and drug traffickers we're talking about james o'keefe the journalist so if our fbi our attorney general's office can't be transparent about why they raided a journalist's newsroom
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Why do we have any faith in the FBI to be transparent about these other issues? That's where I'm coming from on this.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Correct. Yeah, it's an affidavit. It's my go, go, go down, go down. It's Roger Paradise journalist detained devices seized. This is not it, but it's on my X page. There's a there's a there's on page 47 of the affidavit. Every word is redacted. I mean, I was enraged. The American Civil Liberties Union, which is a liberal group, came to my defense. This is like, this is crazy.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
If another country like Ukraine or Russia or North Korea did this, our State Department would. So my point is, I don't have a lot of faith in these institutions. I just don't. What do you think happens when they get in? That's what I want to know. Because to me... There it is right there. I apologize. I apologize. Could you just... I apologize. Is that real? That's a real document.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Can you zoom in, please? It says probable cause justifying search of O'Keefe's person and premises. Every single word is redacted. They even redacted the footnote. So... Isn't this insane? There's more of this.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Look at this. The whole thing. Keep going, Rob.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Okay, there's something unredacted. Read the bottom.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Read that. Based upon my, this is an FBI agent, I have learned, among other things, that cell phones are capable of sending emails.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
This is not Saturday Night Live. And then it goes on to the rest of the affidavit. But the previous three pages are the probable cause. That is the justification for the raid against James O'Keefe. And James, if you don't mind, what were they looking for? The diary? They weren't looking for the diary. They already had that. What were they? Well, that's a loaded question.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
All the people in the government that come to me with information. And then they raid your house. Correct. That is the justification for the raid against James O'Keefe. So it means they can do whatever they want. That's a question that Dan Bongino and Kash Patel need to answer. Will they? They need to answer.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Were they really trying to do? Were they really trying to? They were really trying to get inside my cell phone because people in the government come to me with information, which as a reporter, I have a right to receive. And they don't like that. Of course.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
This is another very interesting story.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
This is a crazy story. They bang on the door, and it's the loudest pounding. You know it's the feds. You just know. And I go to the door. I'm like, I'm opening the door because, you know, they're going to shoot me. And then they open. They put me in handcuffs. I think I'm under arrest. They say, no, this is a search warrant. I say, I want to speak to my lawyer.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I say over and over again, I want to speak to my lawyer because I learned I was arrested 10 years prior. Don't talk to the FBI. Just don't, even if you're innocent. They say, would you like to use the iPhone on your nightstand? I said, yes. And then I unlocked the phone because I have to call my lawyer. And the moment that I unlocked my phone, they snatched the phone, not get out of here.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
They snatched the phone out of my hand because I unlocked the phone. And then the FBI agent, like almost to torture me in front of me, He goes to the settings and he changes the settings to make it not go to sleep. Wow. And then they put the phone in an evidence bag. Now the FBI has access to all of my signal messages. Do you know what's in my signal messages?
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And a week later, I was removed from Project Veritas. So conspiracy theories were abound. Did Pfizer bribe somebody? Did they put pressure on people? This is the guy, Jordan Walker. There he is right there. Change your music.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
All the people in the government that come to me with information. Wow. So the Department of Justice, this is the Biden department or the month before Trump was elected in 2020. Excuse me, Biden was elected in 2020. Now they have access to all of my sources. So this is what's considered to be a constitutional raping because the American Bill of Rights have special protections for reporters.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And you're talking to the only newsroom that has ever been raided by the FBI. We're the only ones that have ever been raided. And they did it just to get the information. So what's behind all those black bars? I believe confidential FBI informants. Of course. People who lied to the FBI to set me up So I could tell you so many war stories, guys, but you ask me questions about cash and Dan Bongino.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
They're great guys. I think they mean well. But if you put me in charge of the FBI, I wouldn't know what to do. I mean, how do you trust a bureaucracy like that? By the way, that is totally illegal. You can't take a gun pointed against your forehead and say, give me your reporter's notebooks. If that happened in Eastern Europe, our State Department would be issuing sanctions against that country.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
But it happened in New York.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I don't know if anyone tells them. I mean, some have said they put you in a skiff. This is this is more of a this is not a fact. This is speculation. But a funny notion that might illustrate what could happen is, you know, that image of JFK getting shot. Yes. Do they put the leaders in a skiff? That's a secure compartmentalized information facility.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Yeah, this is a Yale-educated doctor, director, high up within Pfizer Pharmaceutical. And there he is freaking out. Grabbed the iPad out of my hand. My cameraman had to, in self-defense, push him away because he was physically assaulting me. You can probably find a better video there. Oh, there's the one of him undercover. Click on that.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Do they show the Zapruder film of JFK getting shot and said, you better do what we tell you to do? Or that could be you. Now, I'm not saying they did that to these gentlemen. And I actually genuinely mean this. I've met Cash. I think he's a genuinely good man. I just don't – I think the system is institutionally corrupt. And everyone says – you know what they say to me, Pat? Oh, call Cash.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
He'll help you out. Call Bam. Call Pam. Like I got them on speed dial. They're getting asked for 10,000 favors a day. I don't have any money to give them. The system is so broken when you need the guy at the top to be so influential. It's the system. It's the Article 3 judges. It's the courts. It's the line prosecutors. The agents in my apartment.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Do you know that when the agents were in my apartment, I could tell by the looks on their faces that they didn't want to be there. They're like, this is crazy. This is wrong. But they did it.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Are you talking about the FBI agents?
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Politics. I'm working on a story right now. One of the directors of the agency, they mean, well, they go into FEMA or they go on the IRS. They have all these notions of freedom and prosperity and eliminating waste, fraud and abuse. But then they get in there and there's such snakes in these entities. Just, you know, I mean, D.C., it's a land of phonies and narcissists.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
They're not attracted to do the right thing. They want power and money and sex. Are we under some delusion that the people in Washington want something other than power and money and sex? What percentage of the people in Washington inside these agencies are actually there to do the right thing? What percentage? For real. Are we naive and foolish enough to think that people... are in these places.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Or there, there's a few people, or there's a few people that are there who do the right thing, but there's so many snakes and manipulative. Look at what happened to me. Look why I'm on your show. I started my own institution because I didn't want to be part of the snakes. And the snakes infiltrate. And I think in some regards, it's human nature. And this is a really good question you're asking.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I'm learning in real time. I started an institution because I didn't trust institutions. And then I'm removed from my own institution by snakes. Yeah. Hello, everyone. I'm James O'Keefe. Been doing this journalism thing for about 20 years. Truth, justice, exposing corruption, everything that comes along with it.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
If you want to connect with me, talk to me about any of this, you can connect with me through MNECT. You can see the QR code below. Look forward to hearing from you.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I understand what you're saying.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
What I think is, as you say, 20 percent statesmen get in there or something like that? Let's say it's 20 percent. I'm just making up a number. I think that's accurate. I think that's accurate. I think there are probably 20 percent. I was probably embellishing. The problem is, is if you're in an institution and you have leakers, one or two people at the top, all it takes is a couple.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Pfizer ultimately is thinking about mutating COVID, the undercover journalist asked. And he said, well, that is not what we say to the public. No, no, no. Don't tell this to any. Don't tell anybody what I'm telling you. Promise me you won't tell anybody. Can we hear the audio of this guy saying this, Rob?
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
that are sabotaging your campaign, that are leaking your confidential informants to the press, it completely sabotages your operation. So the problem in these institutions, if you don't have your team, which is like 100% loyal and high integrity, Even a few of these snakes can destroy the entity.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
So that is the problem in my view, is that you have a couple people at the top who are engaged in gaslighting, destructive campaigns. Maybe Bongino, here's another thing, they're getting fed information that is not true. And they're put in a position, an untenable situation, where it's difficult for them to be successful. That's what I think.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
That's a question that Dan Bongino and Kash Patel need to answer. They need to answer. Do they have the courage to answer it? Why aren't they answering it? By the way, people expect me to answer that question. I don't have any power. I mean, other than the authority that sources give to me when they give me information. I'll tell you something.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I released some videos in the last week inside of Epstein's bedroom. In the British Virgin Islands, excuse me, the American Virgin Islands. I'm releasing images inside of his temple. Some interesting stuff on the chalkboard, by the way. There's a weird picture of a baby in his dining room. There's his chalkboard. The FBI had those videos, but you know who released it? O'Keefe Media. Yep.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
So why can't they release the binders? Remember the binders they released? Yep, yep. Why can't they release this stuff? Why am I releasing it? Yeah. I mean, there's no sex of children in there. That's something you could show the public. That's Epstein's writing, by the way, on the chalkboard. Some mysterious and cryptic messages there.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I think our government... Would you say power, deception, music? A mirror in face, either dank brain or dark brain. One... These are the public is deciphering these messages that Jeff Epstein. This is video, by the way, if you're wondering what this is, this is days after he was raided shortly after his arrest there in 2019, 2020.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And that's the penmanship to show that it is was in fact Jeff Epstein's writing on the chalkboard. So we released this video. And my point is someone inside the United States government provided that to me.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
That's correct.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
That's correct.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I can't say.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
girl in the bathroom sitting there the uh that's a strange statue it's it looks it's like eyes wide shut like sort of stuff there with the with the weird angel there's a woman that doing something to her private parts there it's freaking demonic house bro There is a book regarding Satan in the bookshelf. We've got some books there. So, yeah, this was provided to me.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
You're looking at the library, the bedroom of Jeffrey Epstein and the little St. James, the Epstein Island. This is inside of his library. No one's ever seen this before. Some people attacking me for publishing this, oh, we want the names, James, we don't care about his library. But my, oh, there it is, Satanic Verses and some other books there.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Salman Rushdie, right, that's different. But people were attacking me because they want the names, and my philosophy is that if I continue to publish all these things, sources will continue to come out.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
You might be missing a few, but I think that's not 100% of what we do. That might be like 30% of one technique to get information, yes. Okay.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Specifically Anthony Fauci.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
The man, not his staff, for example.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
You know, I don't have a legitimate excuse there. I suppose... I like to say this to my staff that, and I hate to refer to myself in the third person, but O'Keefe, O'Keefe Media, my organization, we always get the story. Sometimes it just might take longer for us to get it. So I would say we haven't gotten them yet. Have I made the attempts?
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Our undercover journalist asked. So you're on a date with him or somebody else is on a date with him. COVID vaccines are ineffective against virus variants. What he said is disturbing. Listen to this.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I mean, we did so many stories about Pfizer specifically, but to your point, why haven't we gone after this man in particular? Oh, I remember about two, three years ago, I did some, everything I'm talking about is legal. But I did a lot of surveillance on him for a number of days and moved on to the next story. So I suppose I don't really have a good excuse there.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And that's something that I should get him to open up.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
That's an extreme example, but we have done things like that. There is something that we're working on right now where we were tracking down corruption in D.C., which you'll see in a month or so, which is a serious, serious story. And we had to find a specific individual or a specific organization. So you can't do a dating app thing. You gotta do it a different way.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
We don't do exactly what you just said, but you might create an alias. Let's say you're a headhunter or you're hiring. Whatever a person needs, someone needs something. Undercover work is about identifying what that need is and providing that thing to them so that you can get access to them. Undercover work is all about access. How do you get access to someone?
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
The easiest way is a dating app because everyone needs love and affection and so forth and so on. Or they believe the person they're meeting with could be a possible future partner. That's the easiest and most expedient way. But you make a really good point about Anthony Fauci. And frankly, I don't have a good excuse.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And I usually don't do this on live television, but maybe I should send a team to get him to open up. It's a good idea. I don't think me saying this will stop him. That's the other thing. These people are so arrogant that people often say, how do these people keep talking to you like this? And the truth is because I'm not a psychologist, but for lack of a better word, they're all narcissists.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
That's right. And they don't even look at us. It's almost like they're confessing. They just don't even think. It's impossible for them to think they could be held accountable for what they're saying. And we have a whole bunch of what we call swipers. We call them the American swipers. And these are girls, some guys.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I do this sometimes, you know, and I go on these lunch meetings, dinner meetings, and they just spill the beans. A lot of guys in the deep state in Washington that work for these organizations, the Pentagon, Department of Defense. And they're talking about the resisting Donald Trump from the inside. Don't tell anybody I'm doing this. And they'll always say it within the first 15 minutes.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And some of them have security clearances.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
That's almost impossible. That's almost impossible. But that is the mission of how to surround yourself with good people.
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Pretty high.
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At the time when I released this, the mainstream media were like, well, we don't know if that's really a Pfizer director. They denied that this guy was who he was. I got internal Microsoft Teams messages from sources within Pfizer that confirmed he was who he said he was. He's a director. High up in the company, two below the chief executive officer. And, yeah, high-ranking guy.
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I think they're a good team. I think they're loyal. In full disclosure, I've hiked with Bobby Kennedy in the Santa Monica Mountains, and I found him to be a brave man. When I say brave, I mean, there was no... incentive for him to do what he has done. He's a Kennedy. So I agree with Tucker that Bobby Kennedy is probably one of the bravest people to have done what he has done.
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But I think going back to your point about incentives, in my case, I speak from personal experience. Let me give you a thought experiment. I've been arrested by the FBI. I've been raided by the FBI. I've been sued 50 times. I've been through all these things. Haven't been shot yet. And what Trump has gone through is at the highest level. And...
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I find that there is an incentive to betray people like Trump. Look at all the goodies you get if you go to the New York Times and there's an incentive there. And I find that when you are pinched by the FBI, which I have been, and by the way, totally falsely accused. That doesn't matter if you did it or not. You're an innocent man. Forget that.
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They did this to Michael Flynn's son or something to the effect of, you better sign this form. saying that your boss committed a crime or you won't see your family for 10 years. How many people would take that deal? In other words, how many people would do the right thing even if they suffered?
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That's a really terrifying and you hesitate to answer that question because this is where things get really deep. Because when you're going after the most powerful people in the world, which we are doing, which Trump is doing, You have to find people, not Pat, who just won't leak information.
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But if the FBI were to point a gun at you and said, you better sign a form saying that James embezzled money, they say, I will not do that because I fear God, not man. Or whatever, if you're a Christian, you say that. If you're something else, you say something similar. I fear God, not man. I will not bear false witness. Because it's the wrong thing to do.
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Well, then you're not going to see your family for 10 years. Okay. You have to find people like that. That's hard. It's hard to find those people. I go back to my original point. The instinct for self-preservation is an extremely important human behavior.
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And if you're going to do what Donald Trump is doing, or to a certain extent what Project Veritas is doing, going after Anthony Fauci and these types of people and Pfizer and BlackRock and the FBI, You have to find people who are completely unbreakable. And that's just what we're talking about. How do you find that? Very difficult thing. Very difficult thing to do.
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And Donald Trump, I'll say one quick story about Donald Trump. I was with him a year ago in his apartment in... New York City. And this was like right around the week he was getting indicted for some stupid stuff with the porn star. And he was signing a hat to my father. And I had done a story on the CIA, exposed a CIA guy on tape who was on one of these dating apps giving away information.
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I'm resisting Donald Trump. I'm not giving information to the president. And Trump wanted to make a video with me about reacting to this. And I said, how do you deal with it? I said, I'm serious. And he goes, he's signing this hat to my dad. And he goes, I just don't care. I just don't care. I was like, you don't care? He's like, I don't care. Maybe he doesn't care.
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But he has been able to develop a way, perhaps, where he just got thick skin, you know? But it's tough. It's really tough to face these attacks. And I can be strong, right? I cannot bear false witness, right? I can say I will not talk to you. Screw you. But my people around me have to be really, really strong.
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Yeah, so this was released January 26, 2023. January 25th, pardon me. The confrontation was released the very next day in Brooklyn. It was filmed in a pizza restaurant in Brooklyn. And then I was, board meeting was on February the 6th. where they brought in a six-and-a-half-hour grievance session.
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That's an interesting question.
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Interesting. And whether you have something, I mean, people, everyone has skeletons in their closet, correct? Maybe something we've done that we're not proud of. Would you agree with that statement? Maybe not illegal, although maybe you stole something when you were a teenager. But isn't it true that we all, every single one of us has something that we're not... No one walks on water.
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We sin. And I mean, myself included. These board members of my company were trying to leak intimate messages between me and my girlfriend, which made them look bad because everyone has an intimate... a consensual life in your, in your bad bedroom. But I think your point is interesting.
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What I would say in response to that is that the, yeah, the, the motivation, the incentive for people not to have those skeletons leaked is extremely high. People will do anything to avoid being publicly shamed. And this is where this blackmail and this extortion thing comes in. My philosophy, you want to know what I said? I said, go ahead, make my day. Leak it. I don't care. I don't give a shit.
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Publish everything. And they did. Evidently, they don't have much on me because the FBI went through every message in my phone for five years and all they could get was some kinky messages between me and my girlfriend. But I do think that the what do you what is your answer? Which of those do you think is an employer you'd focus on between those two?
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Out of 75 employees, about 12 employees spoke with these grievances, which is what you watched in the documentary. And then on February the 10th, they indefinitely suspended me without pay, a.k.a. fired me from Project Veritas.
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I think my concern as an employer would be, I don't know if this falls into your dichotomy, but, okay, information on people. Will the enemy, will the person allow the enemy to use that information as leverage? And I'm the type of person where they may have something on me. I don't care. Publish it.
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But do my employees, are they able to be strong enough or will the enemy come and say, we have this information upon you, now betray your mission?
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What is the thing that needs to be on video in your mind?
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Which is what our FBI is not doing.
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Correct. I would say people are enraged about this.
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We're going to keep her five years in. People are still enraged.
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Well, tell me what you mean by that, the White House decision.
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Before we move on from the Epstein thing real quick, we could go to this. This is present day. This is the John Daly clip with Prince Andrew, the guy on undercover camera. Didn't you cover this on your show?
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Oh, you did? Okay, you guys covered this. Yeah, we did. This is the...
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They said that it was wrong for me to fire the chief financial officer.
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This is someone who's quite... you know, loyal and a confidant to Prince Andrew. I got a lot of heat for this, too, because people say this doesn't prove anything. And I think one of the challenges here is that you're confirming suspicions. You're getting them on video, admitting it. He's having sex with underage girls. And then this guy goes on Piers Morgan. I just think it's hilarious.
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I don't know if your producer could find that clip. And then he says, I think O'Keefe's great. This girl that he said, man, she was beautiful.
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What did you think about what you said? I regret saying it. I regret... He admits that he was giving you credit for the girl. And credit to Piers Morgan for grilling him. I mean, grilling him. I was actually shocked that... It might be hard to find this clip, but Piers Morgan was just grilling him. So that's... I've been, honest to Pat, I've been so heads down in my reporting.
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The board? The board. These individuals that you saw on the film. Right. They... Their names, Matthew Tiermond, George Skakel, other individuals who no one knows their names, Joe Barton. But these board members said, James does not have the authority. And it turns out I did have the authority.
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I mean heads down on this Epstein reporting. I have not, you know, I have not followed the news right now.
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I think these are great ideas. No, no, I think there's... I am and I should and I will. And I did get some sources with Diddy a year or two ago, but I think your idea... Let me ask you a better question. What is the thing that needs to be exposed? What, if exposed, would change things? That's helpful to me.
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And the chief financial officer sent me a message on February the 2nd saying, we're going to have an emergency board meeting to remove you, James O'Keefe, as CEO. I was like taking off on an airplane at the time. I was like, this is the twilight zone. I said, what are you going to say to the public? Do you have a press release written? They said, no, the public doesn't need to know.
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What do you think the thing if caught on video that would change thing? I can't I mean, I'd love to see people perp walk. I don't have the power to arrest. But what is the thing that needs to be on video in your mind?
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I see. And that is released. In other words, these men have internal conflicts and they're blackmailed over this.
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Like iPhone, iOS.
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I think that, too, and also the so-called blackmail. How do you think it actually works? Like, what is the conversation like in your mind, in your imagination? I'm just curious, you guys, because that helps me as an investigative understand what I'm trying to catch. How do I think Diddy's model works? Correct.
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That's the thing that needs to be on video. What you just said, that would change everything, in my opinion.
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But you might have hearsay. In other words, and this is what happened with Prince Andrew, another guy close to him said that this is what happened, which is still powerful.
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So for me, it was like, are you kidding me? Like this was like the twilight zone.
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I mean, I commit to you that I will do this. And I usually do get the story. Sometimes it takes me a little longer than I'd like. But this is also very dangerous, wouldn't you admit, to do these stories?
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I certainly did. I remember you said about a year ago, you said, James O'Keefe has chosen a tough life. And it was a very – I think it was a more profound statement than even you intended. Not tough in the way that most people – usually they use the courts against me, legal, lawyers. That's a whole other conversation.
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But this is very dangerous, and the people that have come before me, like the – what's the movie, To Kill a Messenger? With – about a reporter in California who reported on the CIA and the drugs and the CIA and they were given, and he committed suicide. I think he shot himself in the head twice, by the way. Yeah, this guy. It was based upon Gary Webb to kill a messenger.
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These are the reporters that came before me. Gary Webb managed to shoot himself in the head twice. That's a really impressive thing to do. Holy moly. You'd think the gun would fall out of your hand the first time. You would think. Yeah, he did some stories on the CIA. It was a great movie. And Gary Webb has a remarkable quote, an incredible quote that I would like to read on the air.
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No, it was just a – this is the story of – this is such a crazy story. They weren't threatening me. They were just informing me that they were going to remove me as the CEO of the company. So my number three guy saying, we're going to remove you and restructure the company. I said, okay, you're fired. This is not going to happen.
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in front of all of you. And it's from this book that was written called To Kill a Messenger. And I'm going to paraphrase because I can't pull it up, but it's Gary Webb says... You know, I was winning. I'm going to paraphrase. I was winning awards. I was getting accolades. I was giving speeches. I won the Pulitzer Prize. And then I broke some stories.
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He's talking about the one about the CIA that made me realize how misplaced my bliss had been. I started messing with with the wrong people. And I began to realize I misplaced my value in what I actually valued. I'm butchering the quote, but it's a profound quote. And then he committed suicide. So my point to you is that this is very dangerous, man.
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That's correct. But you know what everyone says in the conservative movement? Do you know cash? Do you know Pam? Do you know this guy? It's all about rubbing elbows and people doing favors. I don't do that for a living.
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No.
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That's right. It's a tough thing as a journalist to navigate the relationship between what I call autonomy and access. There's a tension in journalism because on one hand you have to protect your sources. And on the other hand, you have to investigate. And it's very difficult. That's a very, it's an art form. Yeah. It's an ethical line. At what point do I, I'm going to burn this book.
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In business, you call it burning bridges. In journalism, you burn bridges every day. You report on powerful people. So it's very tough.
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Because we all knew what he's now reporting. He's acting like it's news.
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You mean like how did he die?
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I don't have any inside information. I know his wife would always say to me, don't tell people that he was killed. Andrew had a heart condition. He had an enlarged heart, I believe. And the doctor said, you've got to stop eating all this steak and drinking all this wine. You have to stop traveling. And I think he just truly pushed himself. That's my belief.
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I would share with the audience if I had any evidence of foul play. All I have is circumstantial evidence. I have no direct evidence. He dropped dead of a heart attack at 43. This was March 1st, 2012. I was 27. He was my mentor. Did you ever meet him? Never. Andrew was a remarkable man. He edited the Drudge Report at the time. He would tweet like a thousand times a day.
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I'm not going to let you do this because it's going to destroy the organization if you do this. And this is the phone call we're having as the airplane is taking off from Nashville, excuse me, to Nashville on February the 2nd. All of this is in this film I just released. You can hear some of the audio of what transpired. And then they have this board meeting on the 6th.
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He was filled with righteous indignation. This is a different world 12 years ago. The media was different. You could like engage with legacy media. You could tweet back and forth. You could have conversations. And he was a mentor of mine. We were very different people. He was more of an extrovert. I was, at the time, much more introverted. But he had a way about him. He was a warrior.
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And that's what we shared in common. I think what I would characterize myself, I'm a journalist. I'm also a warrior. I'm at war all the time, constantly. And he was too. But it aged him. I'm now 40 years old. He died at 43, and in the last few years of his life, he just seemed to age.
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I commit to you that I will do this. This is also very dangerous, wouldn't you admit, to do these stories?
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And he took things personally, and he was angry and furious and righteous and indignant and tweeting every tweet at the reporter and holding them accountable. I've never met anyone like him. I still haven't met anyone like him. But I don't have any information about his death other than I know he had a heart condition.
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There's this moment where Andrew Breitbart is talking to Dave Weigel. I know this well. And this is a perfect, perfect story. And the reporter's got his little pencil and paper. I don't know if they do that anymore. writing down, and Andrew goes, and Andrew is talking to the reporter, and he screams into the reporter notebook, fuck you, John Podesta. Only Andrew Breitbart.
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He's talking to the reporter notebook, not to the guy, but to the masses the reporter's writing to. That is a quintessential Andrew Breitbart moment, and I understand him because I am similar in that particular way. He was righteously indignant taking on this mainstream media. Yeah, that's it, Rob. Watch this. Yeah, Rob. Watch this.
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He's talking to the reporter notebook.
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This is Andrew Breitbart.
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No, we spoke, I mean, Andrew, him and I, this man you just saw, him and I spoke 10 times a day. I mean, he was constantly talking to me and then he died and I was alone. I found the quote. I need to read this on the air, please. Quote, This is the investigator reporter who exposed drug trafficking with the CIA and getting drugs in America, Gary Webb.
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That's Monday, February the 6th, 2023. Some a week or so after the video you just watched. And that's where you had this bizarre... struggle session, Maoist struggle session, where they marched in employees, and it was almost like employees went on strike, and said, we don't like James O'Keefe. He's a mean boss. He works us too hard.
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I was winning awards, getting raises, lecturing college classes, appearing on TV shows and judging journalism contests. I won the Pulitzer Prize. And then I wrote some stories that made me realize how sadly misplaced my bliss had been. The reason I'd enjoyed such smooth sailing in my career for so long hadn't been, as I'd assumed, because I was careful and diligent and good at my job.
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The truth was that in all those years, I hadn't written anything important enough to suppress. Gary Webb to kill a messenger, shot himself in the head twice. Everyone that has come before me and who extreme truth tellers have been like, you think of even historically, like in a much larger scale, They've been assassinated.
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What are the odds that the day that... That's a little suspicious.
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The problem, Pat, this is extremely suspicious. God willing, if anyone has proof, if there's someone in the hospital, if there's someone with knowledge, I'd love to report it. The problem is I walk a fine line, too, because if I come out and make a statement that I can't prove, then I lose credibility. So I have to be careful. But I hear what you're saying. This is incredibly suspicious. Yeah.
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And I don't even know what to say about it, except I hope that it's 13 years later here. Yeah, exactly. We're still talking about JFK and who shot JFK.
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And they had these weird grievances, and you could hear all the grievances.
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Yeah, just give him the respect, but he's not going to drink it. And one more reporter, Michael Hastings, died in a fiery car crash. He reported on Stanley McChrystal. So I'm well aware of the dangers, but, you know, I mean, what do you really want to know? Am I afraid to die? Um, not really. I've lived a good life. I believe in what I'm doing. And I, I'm also a spiritual person. I believe in God.
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I know there's that saying, you know, no weapon formed against me shall prosper. It's an Isaiah. I genuinely believe I wear it around my neck. Border Patrol agent gave to me, I rode the train of death in Mexico. I should have died. I didn't, you know, so I, I believe in what I'm doing and, and, and, um, Maybe I'll be the one that got away. That's all I can say.
PBD Podcast
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The pregnant lady said it didn't happen.
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Hello, everyone. I'm James O'Keefe. Been doing this journalism thing for about 20 years. Truth, justice, exposing corruption, everything that comes along with it. If you want to connect with me, talk to me about any of this, you can connect with me through MNECT. You can see the QR code below. Look forward to hearing from you.
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"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I stole a pregnant woman's sandwich. Barry Hinckley said I took black SUVs around. He said you shouldn't be transporting the CEO around like this. A bunch of really strange accusations, which never made sense to anybody. Anybody watching was like, this is insane. And questions are, how could this happen? Why could this? So many things to dive into here about what went down.
PBD Podcast
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I almost feel like they're concerned that I'm going to record them trying to bribe me, which I would. Of course.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Someone inside the United States government gave that to you. That's correct. The FBI pointed guns at me and took my reporter's notebooks. Because I have to call my lawyer. Get out of here. And the moment that I unlock my phone, they snatch the phone out of my hand because I unlocked the phone. Now the FBI has access to all of my signal messages. Do you know what's in my signal messages?
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Yes, to be clear, Ethel Kennedy, the Kennedys and the Skakels are two famous families. Kennedys, Democrats, Skakels, Republicans. Ethel Kennedy... is the mother of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. This same Ethel Kennedy is the aunt of that man right there, George Skakel. So they are, in fact, related.
PBD Podcast
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That's not exactly clear to me, but his father's grandfather founded a company. I forgot the name of the company. Big company. Probably find it online here. Was it carbide or Union Lake carbide, some type of coal processing?
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
He literally just made it up under oath. He was flippant. It's a remarkable piece of footage. He's under oath. This is a federal deposition. Your audience might be asking, how can O'Keefe play courtroom videos? Depositions aren't under seal, meaning they're public proceedings. It's videotaped. He's under oath.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
in a federal courtroom proceeding, and the attorney asks, you allege that James O'Keefe owes you money or stole money. How much did James steal? Right here.
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$785,000.25.
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27.
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Well, there was another clip in the deposition. You could pull it up here in a minute, but he says that these companies could, this is his quote, could be sold to Pfizer.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
And these companies, now when you're in a nonprofit organization that investigates these things, we have to sign a conflict of interest policy. Right. And this is very important. In my business, infinitely more important than any other business. If you have financial investments in these companies, you have to disclose them. Sure.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
I did not know this, but every one of my board members were co-investing in these companies without my knowledge. They were soliciting money from each other to put into these companies. And I didn't know it until I got to this lawsuit. And this is an ongoing lawsuit.
PBD Podcast
"No One's EVER Seen This" James O’Keefe BREAKS Epstein Files, FBI RAID Plot & Project Veritas Split | PBD Podcast / Ep. 591
Go for it. Only thing that has changed. is that we broke the biggest story in our organization's history. It was a story that was so big that it was a combination of the board thinking they finally could do this without James O'Keefe, but also maybe some conflicts of interest per their own words.
REAL AF with Andy Frisella
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James O'Keefe here in Arlington, Virginia in front of the Pentagon. The branch chief inside the Pentagon saying on hidden camera he's going to resist against Trump and Hegseth. Now since President Trump was elected and assigned Pete Hegseth as Secretary of Defense, the DOD has faced a number of leaks in the past few months from employees inside the Pentagon.
REAL AF with Andy Frisella
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There's some type of deep state forces that want to make sure you don't stay there.
REAL AF with Andy Frisella
871. Andy & DJ CTI: Trump Unfurls Plans For Double 100-Foot Flagpoles, SCOTUS Appears Poised To Side With Maryland Parents Over LGBTQ+ Books & Amish Community Helps Rebuild Western North Carolina
The Secretary of Defense Pete Hexeth has been going on media interviews expressing that there are people within the Pentagon who want to resist the president and hurt his policies.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
I love it when a kid whose headphones are too big for his head is giving the world life advice. I think that, that was that kid, if you couldn't, if you can't see it. It depends on the primary structure for the 2028 presidential election. If they skip Iowa and New Hampshire again, it is very clear they're going to move to the center because black voters, I'm going to
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
who will make up a majority of the voters in South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, these early states. I don't know about Florida anymore, but it was Florida forever. In the Democratic primary, they are centrist. They are centrist to conservative Democratic voters.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
The reason that Joe Biden was able to resurrect his entire career in the 2020 Democratic primary is because the South Carolina black voters voted.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
resurrected him um had uh and that's why iowa was was where brock obama was able to get a start and he probably would have won anyway in south carolina because he's a black candidate but a lot of moderate candidates find their success in the deep south if the deep south is the beginning of the 2028 presidential calendar it is because the party is looking for a moderate person if they start in nevada iowa new hampshire anything like that it will be leaning progressive
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Yeah. And you're missing the people who are professionally hate men and white people. That's all. And Christians. Those are also the very, very they've kind of fallen between those things. But that's also the very fifth, very important portion of it. And look, it's not a majority. And if you look at that David Shore deep dive, which I know you've talked about in the past, it's.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
The Democratic Party's worst demographic in the last election was men under the age of 20. Like it is such a reversal because of how toxic some of their politics have been. And the fact that Jasmine Crockett is a tie with Barack Obama in the CNN poll of who is the leader of the Democratic Party. They have the dime store Cardi B, who was a middle-aged woman who went to elite private schools.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
And then the former president who hate him or love him was the former president and a very eloquent speaker with Jasmine Crockett, who was comparing a paralyzed person and calling him Hot Wheels today at the Human Rights Convention. That is really a startling place for how much the party has kind of lost its mind and how much bigger the tent for the Republican Party has become.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Well, one, the focus by Democrats on things that don't matter, like abortion and like the rise of fascism, which most people in their regular lives don't honestly think is the one is happening and two is, you know, happening tomorrow. And also the fact that Democrats really had a breakdown of civil society. Look, Democrats run almost every one of our major cities in America.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
the places in the 90s and 2000s that everyone wanted to be. Everyone wanted to be like, you know, in New York or Los Angeles, thriving metropolitan cities. And they're all losing people. You know, I was actually thinking this before. If you look at the new census numbers that had the number of immigrants moving to these cities and kind of growing them,
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
If it were not for mass immigration, blue cities would actually feel the repercussion of failed policies, and it's only because they keep bringing in these third world immigrants that sit there and kind of bring the population back. But Americans have rejected them with their feet. They're leaving them in mass, and they have for the last five years. They have failed on labor.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
on quality of life issues across the board. And then they defend lawlessness from crime and riots to the border. And they expect you to feel more sorry for an illegal alien who's in a gang and has gang tattoos and was deported quickly than they do for that poor girl, the nursing student who was killed in Georgia.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
That is a complete and total breakdown of where their thought process and what priorities are when it comes to how Americans live every day.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
I would just sit there and say that the work that you've done, the work that a lot of people do, the part, the thing that like the Liz Cheney's did not understand is what is a moderate? A moderate is not always Susan Collins. A moderate is very far right in immigration and maybe centrist on abortion and left wing on healthcare. That's what a moderate is.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
And we hit where the moderates actually cared about, like on immigration, the border and the war against white people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
She is 43 years old and went to a K through eight school that now costs thirty five thousand dollars a year. The idea that she's ghetto or whatever she's presenting herself as is the biggest joke. I mean, she's doing she's doing some kind of bit, I guess, to sit there and prove herself somehow. And it's just I don't know. Listen, she's in a super safe Democratic seat over.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
And I think Dallas or Houston is one of the two. And she's trying to say this is how I will break through as a potential lead in the Democratic Party, either to have a post career as a television host or a speaking engagement person. Or she's going to sit there and run with AOC in the most in the ticket that will really show Americans are tired of this bit.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Somebody who speaks English well, unlike Congressman Crockett, that would be a starter to a man. I think Democrats are going to take a break from nominating women for quite some time. It's just the truth. And I think that they're going to probably pick a man who is not a white man, who checks a lot of boxes, who speaks well and has centrist career things.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
I mean, look, if you watch the Harris DNC convention and the Hillary DNC convention, it looked a lot like a George W. Bush convention in the way they sounded about certain things, patriotism, America. They've definitely taken this road. And I just don't think there is enough people in the Democratic Party who who live in Bushwick, Brooklyn, who've got pink hair, just that they were nominated.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
AOC could not win a statewide primary in New York against Chuck Schumer. That is why I believe partially she's looking at a national primary. And there is nothing, running for off president is a career booster. That is how you end up becoming Pete Buttigieg, which you would have never done if you had to run just being a mayor. So I think that there's going to be a lot of people in the clown car.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
But at the end of the day, I think black voters who make up the majority of primary voters for the Democratic Party in a lot of states, especially the big southeast states, they will be voting for a moderate man, probably a man of color. And I think that Westmore has what it takes right now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
I mean, it looks I don't if she was not, I don't know what else she would be doing. Like she's not doing differently than I would be advising if I was a Democratic consultant. There's nothing that she's doing that would make me think she's not running for president. I don't think she's running for a statewide office in New York.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
I just don't think she's going to challenge Chuck Schumer's, you know, $50 million coffers. And she does, she, she isolates too many people in New York. There's too many voters who absolutely be appalled by her. So I think she's going to look at a, at a national thing and being the national voice of the party. And she has a better chance of doing that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Although I don't think she can win than she does at being a state, a U S Senator, which by the way, she's not a super effective legislator to begin with. Why would she be a Senator for?
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Or be a populist progressive in the sense that you – like they used to be. Like be like – what's it called? What's this? The labor activists of the 1970s. Be super pro-union. Be super pro-worker and be against illegal immigration, which drives down their wages. trying to mix, but they don't want working class voters. That's their ultimate problem. There is a path for Democrats to move forward on.
The Charlie Kirk Show
What's Driving the Democrat Death Spiral?
Talk about billionaires in the Trump administration or the wealthy or tax cuts. There is a road for them to walk on and be a working class party. They have no interest in working class people because they're revolted by them. They are the party of college educated people who have those signs.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
Thanks so much. It's great to be on, as always.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
Yeah, I mean, I think it was – I saw somebody else refer to this as the art of the – I think it was Matt Gaetz, actually. And I think he's right and certainly has the credibility to say that. I just think it was a very practical decision on President Trump's part. I think he doesn't need the disruption anymore.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
I think it's very different to have a big game of chicken when we don't control the White House and we don't control the Senate as opposed to a time where we have the new president coming in. We've got we've got all three branches of government and we just don't need the distraction.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
Well, I think that's what some folks are worried about. I'm not as worried about that. I mean, I don't think that we're going to wind up with some weird thing where it's like, oh, gosh, you know, some weird thing happened and all of a sudden we're going to have President Harris. I mean, I understand why folks are going to be concerned about that, but it just seems sort of far-fetched.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
But I think people are just trying to avoid chaos. They're trying to avoid a bad look, and they're just – going to go forward on that basis that they want everything to run smoothly. And maybe Johnson is not the ideal guy, but he's the guy we have. And so we're going to go forward with him.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
Yeah, well, I think, as usual, the truth is often somewhere in between. I think that this has actually been a really healthy debate. I'm not one of those folks who's been discouraged by it. Charlie, I know you've been pretty vocal about the fact that we need to find a kind of way to work together with all the members of this coalition. But I'm glad we had the discussion today.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
i don't think that i think what it has exposed is that a lot of these h-1b folks are actually not at all elite and at the very worst i think we can come out of this with an h-1b system like my friend mark kirkorian at the center for immigration studies has pushed that you would have an auction so that you really are only getting at least a higher skill higher uh folks up on the food chain to do this um but i think look immigration is going to be an issue for the base it's certainly an issue for me
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
And I'm glad that we put a shot across the bow. And I think hopefully the tech right folks are going to pause a little bit and realize that we need to get some real wins on immigration if they're going to get anything that they really want on H-1B.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
No, absolutely. And in fact, I have a whole chapter in my book that's essentially on Silicon Valley and what happened here. And I've got a subsection of that chapter called the H-1B scam that kind of goes into this a lot. So I think you've got all sorts of concerning things happen. You have a lot of ethnic nepotism in hiring going on.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
Once you get whites kind of getting shoved out of these processes, you get blackmail. White middle Americans often not even kind of being in the position set where they're considered. Often that's a public school system failure. So it's a whole bunch of things. But you've also had over the last few decades, you've had a net white flight from Silicon Valley that we haven't talked about.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
It hasn't just been a question of, oh, we brought in all these great immigrant engineers and everybody's living happily ever after. We've changed the country in that area so dramatically that the people who used to live there have kind of gone elsewhere despite the huge economic opportunities.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
I don't think that in an unrestrained way, at least, that's something that we want to repeat in the country as a whole.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
Right. Well, I think, you know, we could try. It's going to be really hard because the civil rights division of DOJ is not going to want to move, but we've got a nominee there, Harmeet Dhillon, who is going to be terrific. And I think she'll do everything she can to make it move.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
But a lot of these things are actually, as much as people like me do talk about how we need to reform a lot of our civil rights laws, a lot of our existing laws are being violated by these companies pretty blatantly. They've got all sorts of preferences and And Mark Andreessen, who's sort of been a tech ally of the right, has been talking about this recently.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
They've got all these companies that are just doing racially preferential things that damage white people that are not allowed under current law. And so I think if we go after these guys, that's going to help a lot.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
If we look, I mean, there are situations where there was a whistleblower at Google I talk about in my book who says that they were explicitly being told to, like, discard the resumes of white men in particular. Right. I mean, you get a couple of painful civil rights decisions against these guys and you're going to get different different outcomes.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
So I think there's a lot that Trump can do just with the executive branch. And if we can do things with laws, that's obviously great as well. But that's always a heavier lift than just using the powers that we are going to have walking in the door.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
Yeah, I mean, certainly I spent 14 years at Stanford, and we saw this where you, in engineering particularly, you had just all these spots being taken by foreign grads. There's a number of problems with that. And, of course, in a place like Stanford, look, I mean, these guys were really smart, certainly at the top of the level. These were the sort of 0.1% that everybody talks about.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
But I'll tell you, and this was not something that Stanford – I think has talked about publicly, but nobody put me under an NDA. So I'll talk about it. I can tell you that among our engineering and science profs, there was real concern about espionage, particularly from China, among some of these graduate students. And there were there were, in fact, departments and programs
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
where there was sensitivity about even having graduate students from some countries. So there, there is a lot of, there is some awareness, uh, even among these top universities about what is going on, but there's a reluctance to talk about it. And we're also boxing out our own people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
And I think part of the really good discussion that's come out of our side is that we're not just having some sort of war of all against all where every native born American should, you know, have to work 80 hours a week to compete with some foreigner. Um, We should unapologetically significantly favor our own our own citizens. That's not woke. It's just common sense.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
Yeah, no, I think it's critical, Charlie. And again, I've really appreciated you taking that role. And that's certainly the role that I've tried to play in a more minor key as well. Look, I've lived in Silicon Valley. I was an ex-tech guy. I kind of understand how those guys think. I've also been involved in the kind of immigration patriot movement since even long before MAGA.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
So I certainly, that's sort of my home intellectually. But we do need to keep these guys together. We obviously need to keep our voters in mind because that's the people who put us in office and we do need to put Americans first, period. At the same time, The folks in tech who have supported us, and in the cases like Elon Musk, just played an enormous role in helping get Trump elected.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
They have real needs and interests, and we need to figure out how we can work together to meet some of those needs consistent with the national interest. And once all the kind of shouting died down a little bit about H-1Bs, we began to see some more productive opportunities. suggestions being made.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
And I think if they're willing to help us on the illegal immigration question, on the mass deportation question, on getting rid of diversity visas, I think they're going to find that if big tech folks help us there, we can have a much more pleasant discussion about what we can do about real top 0.1% tech folks who they feel like they may need for their business.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
So I actually think the good news is we've had this conversation before we're even getting into office with our coalition. And I actually am quite optimistic. I see that there's a good way forward here. And it's going to require some give and take. And that's what you need in any coalition.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
Yeah, I think it's a little tricky. I mean, actually, I live in Montana and our Republican governor was the first with our legislature, our governor, who's a former technology entrepreneur and understands tech. We were sort of the first to ban TikTok. And it's been interesting to kind of watch that get walked back a little bit nationally. And I understand why it's a sensitive issue.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
I understand why Trump is weighed in against it, because I think there's a feeling that, A, we don't necessarily want to give the government always that type of power. B, I think Trump, who's obviously very savvy about public opinion, can see that a lot of Gen Z voters are going to be very angry if we lose TikTok.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
At the same time, I think that the Chinese Communist Party ownership and potential misuse of Americans' data is something that we need to be concerned about. And I think realistically, We probably are going to need to engage with a little bit of brinksmanship where we get as much separation as we can between the Chinese Communist Party and Americans data.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
And you continue to have TikTok in the meantime. But I think I think we should be able to have I mean, if they're true national security violations, we should have the power to ban TikTok. But I think whether we use that power is a separate question on that. I think like President Trump, perhaps I'm a little more skeptical.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
Well, I think maybe the number one thing I'd love to see is some updating of what was the Schedule F idea at the end of the last administration. I'm not going to get too deep in the weeds or there are folks who say, well, you actually need to do it slightly differently. But the basic idea behind Schedule F is that we were going to make it so that
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
The truly senior policymaking civil servants in the government became like political appointees, and I was a political appointee in the last Trump administration, at-will employees. And so that if they were basically defying the administration, which they're not allowed to do, they shouldn't be allowed to do that as part of their policy. their mandate, that they can be removed.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
And I think that bringing that sort of accountability to the policymaking apparatus, I can tell you as somebody who managed thousands of people in the last administration, there are certainly some people who want to do work for you. But if you're in the Trump administration,
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
There are also going to be a lot of bureaucrats who are going to try to stop you, even though their job is to help implement the policies of the administration.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
So I think putting some teeth into something that would really give us the power to hire and fire the true policymaking folks at the top would do a tremendous amount to restore democratic accountability to the system, to go after the deep state. And I would love to see us move very aggressively in that lane.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
Thanks so much, Charlie. It's a pleasure to be on as always. Thank you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Americans Come First: The Truth about H-1B Visas and "Skilled Worker" Immigration
Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Biggest Amfest Ever Begins
Well, it's great. You know, we have right now we have whistleblowers inside the government that are very excited to come forward. They feel like there's a new dawn of a new era. And with this new administration, I think maybe they'll be protected. We'll see. And then we also have people in the deep state we're exposing right now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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I think the executive branch of government can be helpful to ensure they're not retaliated against.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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I think it's going to result in 10x, 100x more people coming forward and commitments from the heads of these agencies, some of whom I've had conversations with, and they're going to fire anybody who retaliates against that person. Also, I think the capacity for reform is going to encourage more people to come forward. In fact, we should do the opposite.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Can you differentiate? That's a very important distinction. I think people who are witness to crimes, corruption, like, for example, the IRS, if you've seen people targeted because of their politics, that's illegal. If you have evidence of that, incontrovertible video recordings or images, that's what we're looking for.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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He said Biden is dead. This guy's the he's a former spy. National Security Council at the White House. Worst espionage ever. A lot of deep state actors in the government. Charlie, if you're one of the good guys, blow the whistle for the bad guys. You might be on a date with one of my swipers.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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He's an advisor to the National Security Council.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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He was saying that Biden is dead, quote, dead and can't complete a sentence. And then he says he's concerned that Trump is going to come after them. I say maybe they should come after them because you work for the National Security Council and you're talking in a public restaurant to a stranger.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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That's right. Have you seen that pattern before, James? I think they're, you know, they're not willing to do what I do. But, I mean, none of this shocks people. It's not surprising, but it's confirming, Charlie. And like I said, 2025, the year of the whistleblower. If you're a good guy, come forward. If you're a bad guy, be careful. I'm going to get to work on this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Yeah, I have a 5-1-C-3 Citizen Journalism Foundation. We're going to pay their legal bills.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Well, it's citizenjournalismfoundation.com. It's a 5-1-C-3. We're going to pay the legal bills, give them money in case there's retribution. And I think, Charlie, exactly that. The executive branch of government, if there's any way that they can be protected, because congressional whistleblower, they don't really enforce that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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So I think there's an opportunity right now to have their backs and have them come forward.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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And I'm on your stage tomorrow. I'm going on stage. I'm going to bring a few of these people out. Federal whistleblowers are going to meet him here.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I second everything Charlie said. I would say the thing that I take from the Ed Snowden matter is the power of one man because people think, well, I'm just one person. He's one individual. He changed world history. He changed the course of history. Correct. I don't know what's in his heart. You know, people say, is he a traitor? Is he a hero?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
This is really the tale as old as time with whistleblowers. You can be both. And it's extra legal what you do. You're violating your covenant. You're violating your nondisclosure agreement. You're violating your agreement with your employer for the public's right to know. That's right. As someone who's been through this, I'm a little biased. And here's why.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Because the FBI came to my home, told Charlie this story, pounded on my door. I'm an American reporter. So if another country did this, our State Department would issue a press release and say this is wrong. Correct. The FBI came to my house with a battering ram like they're Vikings or something and smashed my door in, took guns, pointed it at my head, and took my reporter notebooks. Wow.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
In the United States of America. So forgive me for not trusting the government. And I'll tell you what they did. I totally agree. They – I had this phone. Of course, I don't have my phone – my lawyer's number memorized. The only phone numbers I've memorized are, like, my parents. So – I said, I need to talk to my lawyer. And the Fed was like, well, you want to use your iPhone?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And then I unlock my iPhone. I have to enter in the password. And the moment that I enter my password into the phone, the FBI agent snatches my phone and right in front of me changes the setting so it doesn't go to sleep and then puts it in an evidence bag.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
So now the FBI, this is three and a half years ago, has access to all of my signal messages, which includes all of my confidential government sources. And it was like, and there were 10 agents, and I looked into their faces, and it struck me that half of them were like, this is wrong.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Those FBI agents were saying to themselves, they could be just deceiving me, but their faces seemed to indicate they thought what they were doing was unconscionable. But they did it anyway. And my message to you, the moral of the story is you might be in a position in your life one day where you're one of them. And what are you going to do? Well, I've got to feed my family.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Well, you're going to do evil things to feed your family. And how will your children look up to you? You have to do the right thing. And I still haven't been – the FBI still has my devices. They still have them. Raiding a journalist. Wow. And the American Civil Liberties Union came out against this.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And my message to the FBI agents who did this is may your children forgive you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Man, that's quite a question. I would say that that was definitely the hardest thing I've ever been through in my life because I was fired from my own creation. And what I said on stage 30 minutes ago was the fight is not what you think it is. It's not external. It's often a fight within ourselves. So the fight is good versus evil.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I mean, I've done investigative work in the offices of these rhinos, or what would you call them, just weak people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I mean, I just catch them on tape saying the opposite of what they say publicly. Do that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And to be fearless, to take on powerful institutions, you have to make sure the people around you are unbreakable. And, you know, I made some poor decisions about who I surrounded myself with, I think. But it was very painful, Charlie, but it taught me the importance of surrounding myself with the right people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
How about some reform of the IRS? Would you like that? And we always hear theories about the IRS are targeting me because of my politics. What if I actually was able to show you some evidence of it? And what if the people in charge were like, you know what, we're going to have that person's back. Just hint, hint, hint. Stay tuned.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
So how do we remove their sort of... Well, I mean, just two hours ago, there was a guy from Disney that came on Charlie's stage. Brave guy. Disney. That's like, by the way, do you see how ABC is owned by Disney and Stephanopoulos? They give a $15 million judgment in libel. How do you unveil the wrongdoing inside corporations? One person. That's right. Very good answer. You did it. One person.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
One person. It just takes one person. I know it's a cliche. One person with courage makes a majority. Done. You need someone who's going to be willing to make a sacrifice. You can't do this unless you have skin in the game. People want, and this is honestly like 99% of people. It's just human nature. Well, I want to, it's like I get, Charlie probably gets 10 times the DMs.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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Every day, I get 1,000 people, I want to do something. And you know what I say back to them? What are you willing to give up? And then 99% of people don't respond. So you're either going to give up some money or you're going to give up some of your reputation.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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And by the way, I'm not a psychotherapist. It doesn't count. I'm not your therapist. I'm not here to listen to you complain. I'm not qualified as a psychotherapist. People treat me like I don't have time. I have to move on to the next person. I'm serious. So it takes one person with courage inside the company who's witnessed something wrong.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
They have incontrovertible evidence of that, and they speak the truth. And if it's strong enough, and trust me, there's a lot of bad stuff happening out there. You just got to stand up and speak the truth and do it now. It's not for everybody, but it takes one person. Next question.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I would say that a friend of mine says life is like an elevator ride. Most people get off too early. They get off the elevator on the wrong floor. Just stay on the elevator and keep doing it. But I was fired from Project Veritas, and we're currently in litigation. It's horrible.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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I've brought federal government employees to the senators and the congressmen. This is an important point. I'm going to speak without naming names. Do you know what they tell me, sir? You know what they tell me, the senators in Congress, when I bring the federal employee, I do the right thing by the law, by these congressional people. They say there's nothing we can do, James. Yeah.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
They say, there's nothing we can do. We can write letters. You can publish the letters on your Twitter. So they're telling me, this is the legislative branch of government. Because they're terrified of the intelligence. They're telling me something more, that the power of Elon Musk's platform is more powerful than they are.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
They're telling me the media is more, and we're a country founded on the whole premise of the public's right to know. The founders set up the United States government The First Amendment is all about the public's right to know. And if the public doesn't know what's happening, they can't be informed. And therefore, we'd have no consent of the governed.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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So when the United States government is spying on everybody and spying on journalists... It's like the equivalent of constitutional rape. It's a situational ethic where the individual that has sworn an oath has an ethical and moral obligation. It's a lose-lose situation.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
So he does the lesser of the two evils, and he speaks out, and he speaks publicly because he can't go to his elected representatives because those people, and I probably should secretly record some of these meetings, those senators and members of Congress tell me that there's literally nothing they can do for the whistleblower.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
But I think when you're going to take on BlackRock, Pfizer, the FBI, the New York Times, and you're winning, you better make sure the people around you are very strong. And they're not going to betray you. And nothing that you can offer those people, nothing that, so I can't be bought, right? If someone tries to bribe me, I'll just film it. But it's not about me.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I actually don't, and I don't like to opine on something I can't confirm yet. So, Charlie, I'm going to punt this one to you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
It's a great question. I would say, like, low-budget movies. I mean, first of all, this is the most important, in my opinion, question that's been asked, the culture. There's a correction. There's a market correction happening in the culture right now. And people are not buying what they're being sold by Netflix.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I think Jeff Bezos not endorsing Kamala was a major tell there in the Washington Post. But I've made this film, Line in the Sand. I understand how much it takes to make a movie. Conservatives have always, in my opinion, this is just my opinion, not been very good storytellers. I don't know what it is. They don't seem to have rhythm or something. They're not the most artistic people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
But I think that's changing. I think that's changing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I think that's changing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I have to make sure that the men around me are also the same way. And that's hard. And you think you have friends? Well, when you're raided by the FBI and they're pointing guns at you, you will figure out who your friends are. And I think, Charlie, we're entering a new era, and I said this on your show yesterday, where I think people inside the government can come forward right now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
So I think people need to spend as much time in the arts and making videos and making films. I don't think you need to have the quote-unquote big budget thing. I think that creates more restrictions, actually. I think you can do incredible things with an iPhone and Adobe Premiere. And some of the best people out there do it that way.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
But I would encourage people, and I'm hiring in a major way, director of photography, I'm hiring editors and producers. We need more storytellers. And there's a lot of people here I encourage to go that route more than the elected office route.
The Charlie Kirk Show
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There's a limited window of time, I think, with that political capital. But I call on President Trump and his heads of his agencies to have these people's backs.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I'll stay more clandestine.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Yeah, Line in the Sand, it's with Tucker.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
If you haven't seen Line in the Sand, the first thing is watch it. Just watch it. Because I think it's an action documentary. So my mantra is most people tell they don't show. I show I don't tell. So I never ask you to believe me by virtue of the decree that I'm credible because I'm believable. I ask you to look at what you're looking at and experience it. And that's what we need more of.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Every one of you is a journalist. You are more qualified than George Stephanopoulos. You're more talented than George Stephanopoulos. And, you know, it's a cliche, but these things are insane, and everyone has an audio and video device. There's an opportunity over there. I'd give it eight months.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
You have eight months where if you have an idea, a vision, right now you have the opportunity to be brave. And I'm a journalist. I'm a videographer. I want you guys, if anyone in the audience wants to do this, now's your time. I'm hiring, and if you are witness to corruption in the United States government, if you know someone who is, have them come forward.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Your action items, tell the truth, be brave, be the difference you wish to see in the world.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
We did. Yes, and I hope that you help make that happen. It's on my list. I feel as though I'm one of the more qualified people to tell these people's stories. They trust me by virtue. Here's the other thing. All that hell I went through, and Laura Logan said this to me, like when I was 25, I was arrested by the FBI falsely because he was placed on house arrest for three years.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I was raided by the FBI, sued 40 times. I thought, and many of you in our lives, we all know what pain is. We all understand suffering. We think, oh, woe is me. But what I did not know, was that all that stuff I went through, even the termination from Veritas because I refused to bear false witness. They asked me to put out a statement about something that wasn't true.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
That has led people to trust me more. And they come to me because they trust me by virtue of the pain that I have been through. So if you're going through something like that, I think that that can help inspire you. But there's a lot of people right now inside the federal government who are witness to to corruption, Charlie, during the Biden administration.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
But they just need to know that someone's going to have their backs and that they will be protected.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Well, what happened was that we broke a story on Pfizer late January 2023 right after Elon bought Twitter. So I just got back on Twitter. By the grace of God, I just got back on Twitter. And then we break the story. Biggest story ever. It was viewed like more times than like the World Cup videos. It was like hundreds of millions of people. What was in this video?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And in this video, the Pfizer mRNA director of scientific research, not a low-level guy, high-level executive, Yale-educated doctor, he was on type saying, this product is no good for the consumers. We tested on monkeys. We came up with the virus in China, the Wuhan lab. He's saying all these things. And he says to our undercover reporter, I think he's on a gay date or something.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
He says, don't tell this to anybody. To which our undercover reporter said, could you just say that again just the way you said it? We got this on tape. I confronted the guy, and then he takes my iPad and he smashes it on the ground, falsely imprisons me inside of a restaurant. It was so crazy.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
So we released that video, and then, Charlie, what happened was – and I'll give you some specific details. I think they're going to make a movie out of this one day, what happened to me, and there's depositions and lawsuit ongoing – Three days later, I get a call from my chief financial officer, Project Veritas, an emergency meeting to remove me as chief executive officer from the organization.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
They had a six-hour emergency board meeting where they tried to get me to lose my temper. I did not. And then they, quote, indefinitely suspended me without pay. So that's what happened, and you can draw your own conclusions from that.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Bobby Kennedy, I went hiking with him a week after that, and I won't share exactly what he said to me, but he invited me to go hiking in the Santa Monica Mountains, which he does every morning with his dogs, and he said something to the effect of, you don't realize who you're dealing with. You go after Pfizer like you just did. Pfizer had to put out a statement.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
He said, you're going after the Defense Department. You're going after powerful people. And they have, as Chuck Schumer said, six ways to Sunday to get back at you. And these people play really dirty. And I think it taught me about human nature. And by the way, this man is a good man.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I didn't know you incredibly well, but when this happened to me, which is the darkest moment of my life, Charlie would call me every day. He didn't have to do that. And text me, how are you doing, and send me prayers. I got to know you better than... And I'm very grateful for your friendship and support during that time.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Well, I think, as I said on the main stage, that it is a fight that's internal. It's a choice that we all have to make. Telling the truth in a time of universal deceit is a revolutionary act. It's not easy. It sounds easy to just tell the truth. You face retaliation.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
You face – I think right now, over the next nine months, you have an opportunity to do this where hopefully you won't be as targeted as you otherwise would have been a year ago. So I think the pendulum is swinging. I think we all feel it in the culture, right, in the politics. Everything's swinging. But it might swing back. So we have to all step up right now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And how you do that is if someone's connected to someone who works for a corporation, institution, federal government, and you have access, you're witness to something wrong, speak up. And in the beginning, it just takes one man, two people, three people. And when their cause succeeds, then other people join in. And my foundation, it's called Citizen Journalism Foundation. We also have OMG.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
My foundation is – we just wrote a $100,000 check to this Disney whistleblower today who's fired from his job at Disney. Tell us the story. What happened with the Disney? Vice President of Disney on hidden camera saying – We don't hire people on the basis of their race. We don't hire white people. That's, like, illegal.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Also, transitioning children, Disney's paying for their employees' children to be transitioned. And he blows the whistle on this, and Disney fires them. And I was in L.A. at the time, this summer, and I was making a film called Line in the Sand, and everyone's like, don't go after Disney. Don't go after Disney. Yeah, Line in the Sand. If you haven't seen it, Line in the Sand.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And everyone in LA is like, don't go after Disney. They're so powerful. And that's the thing that I'm fighting. Tell the truth. Always speak the truth. And no matter what, do the right thing. No matter what. So this is what's my advice. Just tell the truth. And if you're witness to something wrong, and it's seriously wrong, and you have evidence of it, then speak out and step forward.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Well, that's a very existential question. I think that the line that separates good and evil runs through each and every human heart. And I have found that our battle, and I think you've said this to me in other words, our battle is not external, it's within ourselves. So the choice to do the right thing is a choice that we must make.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And it is being willing to accept the consequences that come along with doing the right thing. That's a choice that you have to make. Not the enemy or the New York Times or some other person coming after you. You have to make that choice. Now, in my darkest moments, and trust me, I'm afraid, in my darkest moments, I look up to people
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
good people like Kelsey Goodman from FEMA or Clarissa from the GSA, who are just genuinely decent human beings. And I look up to them. And the line in the sand when I rode that train, I was scared to death. But I looked up to a guy named Anthony Rubin, a YouTuber, who did it before me. So I try to look to people who set the example, and I follow them. And I would encourage – that's what we do.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
That's what we do. We look at the best in people, and then we take the action.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I mean, I've been doing this for – I've been doing this since I was in college, so that's 21 years, Charlie. I've been embattled most of my life. In other words, I've always been the underdog. And I actually think that with Elon purchasing Twitter, which you pointed out was the greatest thing that ever happened in Western civilization, and turning point, Charlie, what did Shapiro say?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
That you built your own better version of the RNC? That stop complaining about the media. They're done. It's dead. You are the media. We are the media. So I wear this on my chest. Do you see any people on television doing that investigative reporter thingy? Are they out in the field for weeks or months? Are they doing investigative reporting into the deep state? Have you ever seen that before?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Well, they haven't done it for a lot of reasons. A lot of it's economics. There's not a lot of money in journalism. That's why it's usually a nonprofit activity. A lot of it's fear. And a lot of it's the relationships that journalists have with those in the government. They have a symbiotic relationship, give and take. I'll keep you secret. You give me your secrets.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
But the secrets they're given aren't truth. It's falsehoods. It's propaganda. So it's incumbent upon we, the people, the only people who can do the job are citizen journalists. We the people. And you have to have a philanthropic heart to do it because it's not easy and it's not profitable. So I think, Charlie, the media is dead. Hollywood's done.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
Well, thank you, Charlie, for having me. And I just had three whistleblowers on stage, two from the Border Patrol, one from FEMA, and then another gentleman from Disney. Four brave people, three of them federal government employees, came on stage, told their stories, and it was really powerful. It was really, really powerful. Thank you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
And stop complaining about it and just do their jobs for them.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Losing It All, And Building It All Back: Live at AmFest with James O’Keefe
I never, as you know, I never ever advocate for policy. However, Snowden needs to be pardoned.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Ask Charlie Anything 216: No Taxes Under $150k? Elon Musk Army?
I just wanted to know what we could do to try to... Because we're based as a Christian nation. I'm just trying to figure out what we can do to get back to being more Christly. Like, I see that how our nation is going, it's just not like it should be. We constantly are having... So much arguments with each other. Like, everybody wants to just be at odds. I don't know what we can do to fix it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
Hey, Charlie, great to be with you and great job in England. Thank you. You're a great, great man. I'm surprised they didn't arrest you for saying what you said.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
Well, they don't have a First Amendment over there, so what you did was very brave, and I thank you for that. I report to you all today that people are asking what actually happened at Project Veritas, the organization I founded. And I've released, Charlie, a movie released yesterday on my website called The Truth Inside Veritas. There's a 12-minute video we published online.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
Apparently, in these depositions in the court case between me and my organization I founded, board members admitted that they were in business together. They had various entanglements, and they were co-investing in medical companies that, quote, could be sold to Pfizer. As you recall, I investigated Pfizer two years ago, did a huge story on the director of mRNA research and scientific planning.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
Just a week later, I was fired. Now it turns out they had investments. You're looking at a federal deposition of George Skakel, and he's admitting that he was in business with these other board members, Charlie. So this is kind of some breaking news here. And I am in talks to retain control, get back in control of Project Veritas, the nonprofit that I once founded.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
Well, I mean, you and I have talked about this in Arizona and elsewhere. It's a lot of things. This film, The Truth Behind Veritas, is really a story about original sin. I think what we do, the investigative video journalism, getting sued all the time. By the way, I got sued last week by one of these deep state guys that we busted. I think people are put under pressure.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
They're put through a high-powered lens. But when you run an organization, you have people who feel entitled, who sometimes get jealous or get envious, and that can turn very toxic. It can grow vindictive when people don't get what they want. but also when you're being raided by the feds, when you're being sued all the time. I think people are put under pressure. People tend to crack.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
People tend to break. People tend to betray you. So this is a really interesting saga, a really interesting documentary that we've produced about everything that's happened. It's an hour-long film behind our paywall at OMG, but there's a 12-minute video online that takes you through some of the highlights. It's very, very difficult, Charlie. I've talked about this extensively. It's very painful.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
to go through that. And we've all been through it to some degree, if you ever built anything. And I learned some lessons about who to surround myself and who not to surround myself with. And you got to have really strong people who are very virtuous people who are willing to tell the truth and shame the devil. Not an easy thing to endure, but hopefully this will all get resolved very soon.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
Very good question. I think the number one lesson I've learned is – I would say, Charlie, everyone can come into my inner circle. If you want to be involved, by all means, and I know that you get this. I get this every day. Hundreds of messages of people wanting to help.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
And it's one thing for them to help with the grassroots level, but I think letting them into your inner sanctum, I think – and I hope you would agree. You really do have to be careful with who you surround yourself with. You can't let everybody into your headquarters close to you because I think people will – they will betray you when the going gets tough.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
Not because you've done anything wrong, but because they're incentivized to. And I think one of the things I've struggled with is how to reconcile the instinct for self-preservation with always doing the right thing. And if you're going to be a truth teller, and I mean if you're really going to be a truth teller,
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
you, the preservation for, you know, self-preservation and self-interest come into conflict with that. So you have to find people who are almost messianic, who are mission-driven, who are self-sacrificial to a certain degree.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
If you want to do this type of truth telling so what I've learned is discernment, and perhaps I was slightly naive, but I also think like I said this is a story about original sin. You watch this film, and it's it's really remarkable that the vindictiveness and the pettiness of people and also, you know, sometimes it just comes down to money. It just comes down to money.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
And you heard Skakel say in the movie, he points at his house and says, you can't afford my house, O'Keefe. And that statement just said so much about who he is. And unfortunately, you've got some people here who I probably shouldn't have hired.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
I shouldn't have trusted these guys, but I did trust these guys.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
A lot of people thought there was malfeasance. I would prefer to say ignorant of those events. I didn't want to know. Nonprofit boards of directors can be very, very dangerous.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
It's very cinematic for those of listeners who are not seeing this. This is Baroque paintings and and images of me nailed to a crucifix. Employees accusing me of stealing pregnant ladies sandwiches.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
bizarre strange human envies and jealousies and pettiness but this is incredible i mean i'm not just saying this it took us two months to make um very well done very artistic you see courtroom deposition footage these are public proceedings people ask me charlie well how can you air all this footage from a court case deposition footage is public proceeding so it's a really remarkable film
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
that actually takes you inside the boardroom at Project Veritas where you get to hear these grievances. You actually hear a recording of the board meeting, of the board members who fired me. The reasons for firing me, which are so bizarre, it almost seems fake, but it's real. And that's what you're watching here on the screen about what really happened.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
Joe Rogan yesterday, Charlie Kirk, Joe Rogan on the air with Aaron Rodgers asking, whatever happened with James O'Keefe and Project Bear? Why doesn't O'Keefe release the tapes? Well, ironically, literally, I did while he was saying that yesterday.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
Man, I think – The type of journalism that we do is a little bit different than perhaps commentary journalism. And I'm not – I am creating business models as I speak to you about how to make this sustainable. I got sued last week by one of the guys I busted in the Pentagon. It's not cheap. And I think citizen journalism is not free. It costs money to do. And I built a nonprofit.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
Now we have Citizen Journalism Foundation. Hopefully we acquire Project Veritas here and we change the name back to Project Veritas Foundation. But I don't know if the commercial imperative, Charlie, is fully compatible with investigative journalism. In other words, I don't know that it can be profitable. And therefore, I don't know how to make it sustainable, but I'm working on it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
And we've done some big stories in Epstein the last couple weeks. We have more stories coming. in our federal government exposing corruption, and I said this and I mean this sincerely, the stuff that I have on video, particularly in Washington, D.C., of these contractors, people should be going to jail.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
And if they don't go to jail, then I'm going to have serious questions about who our prosecutors are. But I'm trying to make journalism sustainable, and I'm trying to create business models for it. But also, Charlie, reckoning with these aspects of human nature, that make it difficult to do when you're telling the truth and when you're shaming the devil.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
These instincts for self-preservation often come into conflict with what you're doing. And that's why I wanted to tell this story. And it's an ongoing story, but I wanted to tell the story.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Wins of the Big Beautiful Bill
I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks. I want to thank Charlie. He's an incredible guy. His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
The Charlie Kirk Show
We Have a Border Again
Yeah, again, it's not Gates opening. That's a misunderstanding of the bill itself. It's how many can we process and actually deport. When you raise the standard for people coming across, when you increase the detention beds, when you increase deportation flights, you're not letting people in. And people are thinking about how the Biden administration is running it now.
The Charlie Kirk Show
We Have a Border Again
Right now, the Biden administration is allowing, for instance, 1,500 people a day just to come to the ports of entry, get a work permit and get released into the country. People coming between ports of entry get what's called a notice to appear and get released into the country. All of that stops.
The Charlie Kirk Show
We Have a Border Again
We're focused on how many people can we process quickly and then deport out of the country, not release into the country. It would be absolutely absurd for anyone to be able to propose something to say we're just going to slow the number of releases. We're focused on how do we actually enforce our border and get us back to zero, people actually crossing the border illegally.
The Charlie Kirk Show
We Have a Border Again
Every administration has struggled to be able to get the authorities in place to be able to actually enforce our border. Let's put them in place.