James O'Keefe

Well, then you're not going to see your family for 10 years. Okay. You have to find people like that. That's hard. It's hard to find those people. I go back to my original point. The instinct for self-preservation is an extremely important human behavior.

Well, then you're not going to see your family for 10 years. Okay. You have to find people like that. That's hard. It's hard to find those people. I go back to my original point. The instinct for self-preservation is an extremely important human behavior.

And if you're going to do what Donald Trump is doing, or to a certain extent what Project Veritas is doing, going after Anthony Fauci and these types of people and Pfizer and BlackRock and the FBI, You have to find people who are completely unbreakable. And that's just what we're talking about. How do you find that? Very difficult thing. Very difficult thing to do.

And if you're going to do what Donald Trump is doing, or to a certain extent what Project Veritas is doing, going after Anthony Fauci and these types of people and Pfizer and BlackRock and the FBI, You have to find people who are completely unbreakable. And that's just what we're talking about. How do you find that? Very difficult thing. Very difficult thing to do.

And Donald Trump, I'll say one quick story about Donald Trump. I was with him a year ago in his apartment in... New York City. And this was like right around the week he was getting indicted for some stupid stuff with the porn star. And he was signing a hat to my father. And I had done a story on the CIA, exposed a CIA guy on tape who was on one of these dating apps giving away information.

And Donald Trump, I'll say one quick story about Donald Trump. I was with him a year ago in his apartment in... New York City. And this was like right around the week he was getting indicted for some stupid stuff with the porn star. And he was signing a hat to my father. And I had done a story on the CIA, exposed a CIA guy on tape who was on one of these dating apps giving away information.

I'm resisting Donald Trump. I'm not giving information to the president. And Trump wanted to make a video with me about reacting to this. And I said, how do you deal with it? I said, I'm serious. And he goes, he's signing this hat to my dad. And he goes, I just don't care. I just don't care. I was like, you don't care? He's like, I don't care. Maybe he doesn't care.

I'm resisting Donald Trump. I'm not giving information to the president. And Trump wanted to make a video with me about reacting to this. And I said, how do you deal with it? I said, I'm serious. And he goes, he's signing this hat to my dad. And he goes, I just don't care. I just don't care. I was like, you don't care? He's like, I don't care. Maybe he doesn't care.

But he has been able to develop a way, perhaps, where he just got thick skin, you know? But it's tough. It's really tough to face these attacks. And I can be strong, right? I cannot bear false witness, right? I can say I will not talk to you. Screw you. But my people around me have to be really, really strong.

But he has been able to develop a way, perhaps, where he just got thick skin, you know? But it's tough. It's really tough to face these attacks. And I can be strong, right? I cannot bear false witness, right? I can say I will not talk to you. Screw you. But my people around me have to be really, really strong.

That's an interesting question.

That's an interesting question.

Interesting. And whether you have something, I mean, people, everyone has skeletons in their closet, correct? Maybe something we've done that we're not proud of. Would you agree with that statement? Maybe not illegal, although maybe you stole something when you were a teenager. But isn't it true that we all, every single one of us has something that we're not... No one walks on water.

Interesting. And whether you have something, I mean, people, everyone has skeletons in their closet, correct? Maybe something we've done that we're not proud of. Would you agree with that statement? Maybe not illegal, although maybe you stole something when you were a teenager. But isn't it true that we all, every single one of us has something that we're not... No one walks on water.

We sin. And I mean, myself included. These board members of my company were trying to leak intimate messages between me and my girlfriend, which made them look bad because everyone has an intimate... a consensual life in your, in your bad bedroom. But I think your point is interesting.

We sin. And I mean, myself included. These board members of my company were trying to leak intimate messages between me and my girlfriend, which made them look bad because everyone has an intimate... a consensual life in your, in your bad bedroom. But I think your point is interesting.

What I would say in response to that is that the, yeah, the, the motivation, the incentive for people not to have those skeletons leaked is extremely high. People will do anything to avoid being publicly shamed. And this is where this blackmail and this extortion thing comes in. My philosophy, you want to know what I said? I said, go ahead, make my day. Leak it. I don't care. I don't give a shit.

What I would say in response to that is that the, yeah, the, the motivation, the incentive for people not to have those skeletons leaked is extremely high. People will do anything to avoid being publicly shamed. And this is where this blackmail and this extortion thing comes in. My philosophy, you want to know what I said? I said, go ahead, make my day. Leak it. I don't care. I don't give a shit.

Publish everything. And they did. Evidently, they don't have much on me because the FBI went through every message in my phone for five years and all they could get was some kinky messages between me and my girlfriend. But I do think that the what do you what is your answer? Which of those do you think is an employer you'd focus on between those two?

Publish everything. And they did. Evidently, they don't have much on me because the FBI went through every message in my phone for five years and all they could get was some kinky messages between me and my girlfriend. But I do think that the what do you what is your answer? Which of those do you think is an employer you'd focus on between those two?