James O'Keefe

in front of all of you. And it's from this book that was written called To Kill a Messenger. And I'm going to paraphrase because I can't pull it up, but it's Gary Webb says... You know, I was winning. I'm going to paraphrase. I was winning awards. I was getting accolades. I was giving speeches. I won the Pulitzer Prize. And then I broke some stories.

He's talking about the one about the CIA that made me realize how misplaced my bliss had been. I started messing with with the wrong people. And I began to realize I misplaced my value in what I actually valued. I'm butchering the quote, but it's a profound quote. And then he committed suicide. So my point to you is that this is very dangerous, man.

He's talking about the one about the CIA that made me realize how misplaced my bliss had been. I started messing with with the wrong people. And I began to realize I misplaced my value in what I actually valued. I'm butchering the quote, but it's a profound quote. And then he committed suicide. So my point to you is that this is very dangerous, man.

That's correct. But you know what everyone says in the conservative movement? Do you know cash? Do you know Pam? Do you know this guy? It's all about rubbing elbows and people doing favors. I don't do that for a living.

That's correct. But you know what everyone says in the conservative movement? Do you know cash? Do you know Pam? Do you know this guy? It's all about rubbing elbows and people doing favors. I don't do that for a living.

No.

No.

That's right. It's a tough thing as a journalist to navigate the relationship between what I call autonomy and access. There's a tension in journalism because on one hand you have to protect your sources. And on the other hand, you have to investigate. And it's very difficult. That's a very, it's an art form. Yeah. It's an ethical line. At what point do I, I'm going to burn this book.

That's right. It's a tough thing as a journalist to navigate the relationship between what I call autonomy and access. There's a tension in journalism because on one hand you have to protect your sources. And on the other hand, you have to investigate. And it's very difficult. That's a very, it's an art form. Yeah. It's an ethical line. At what point do I, I'm going to burn this book.

In business, you call it burning bridges. In journalism, you burn bridges every day. You report on powerful people. So it's very tough.

In business, you call it burning bridges. In journalism, you burn bridges every day. You report on powerful people. So it's very tough.

Because we all knew what he's now reporting. He's acting like it's news.

Because we all knew what he's now reporting. He's acting like it's news.

You mean like how did he die?

You mean like how did he die?

I don't have any inside information. I know his wife would always say to me, don't tell people that he was killed. Andrew had a heart condition. He had an enlarged heart, I believe. And the doctor said, you've got to stop eating all this steak and drinking all this wine. You have to stop traveling. And I think he just truly pushed himself. That's my belief.

I don't have any inside information. I know his wife would always say to me, don't tell people that he was killed. Andrew had a heart condition. He had an enlarged heart, I believe. And the doctor said, you've got to stop eating all this steak and drinking all this wine. You have to stop traveling. And I think he just truly pushed himself. That's my belief.

I would share with the audience if I had any evidence of foul play. All I have is circumstantial evidence. I have no direct evidence. He dropped dead of a heart attack at 43. This was March 1st, 2012. I was 27. He was my mentor. Did you ever meet him? Never. Andrew was a remarkable man. He edited the Drudge Report at the time. He would tweet like a thousand times a day.

I would share with the audience if I had any evidence of foul play. All I have is circumstantial evidence. I have no direct evidence. He dropped dead of a heart attack at 43. This was March 1st, 2012. I was 27. He was my mentor. Did you ever meet him? Never. Andrew was a remarkable man. He edited the Drudge Report at the time. He would tweet like a thousand times a day.

He was filled with righteous indignation. This is a different world 12 years ago. The media was different. You could like engage with legacy media. You could tweet back and forth. You could have conversations. And he was a mentor of mine. We were very different people. He was more of an extrovert. I was, at the time, much more introverted. But he had a way about him. He was a warrior.