James O'Keefe

Well, they haven't done it for a lot of reasons. A lot of it's economics. There's not a lot of money in journalism. That's why it's usually a nonprofit activity. A lot of it's fear. And a lot of it's the relationships that journalists have with those in the government. They have a symbiotic relationship, give and take. I'll keep you secret. You give me your secrets.

Well, they haven't done it for a lot of reasons. A lot of it's economics. There's not a lot of money in journalism. That's why it's usually a nonprofit activity. A lot of it's fear. And a lot of it's the relationships that journalists have with those in the government. They have a symbiotic relationship, give and take. I'll keep you secret. You give me your secrets.

But the secrets they're given aren't truth. It's falsehoods. It's propaganda. So it's incumbent upon we, the people, the only people who can do the job are citizen journalists. We the people. And you have to have a philanthropic heart to do it because it's not easy and it's not profitable. So I think, Charlie, the media is dead. Hollywood's done.

But the secrets they're given aren't truth. It's falsehoods. It's propaganda. So it's incumbent upon we, the people, the only people who can do the job are citizen journalists. We the people. And you have to have a philanthropic heart to do it because it's not easy and it's not profitable. So I think, Charlie, the media is dead. Hollywood's done.

And stop complaining about it and just do their jobs for them.

And stop complaining about it and just do their jobs for them.

I never, as you know, I never ever advocate for policy. However, Snowden needs to be pardoned.

I never, as you know, I never ever advocate for policy. However, Snowden needs to be pardoned.

I second everything Charlie said. I would say the thing that I take from the Ed Snowden matter is the power of one man because people think, well, I'm just one person. He's one individual. He changed world history. He changed the course of history. Correct. I don't know what's in his heart. You know, people say, is he a traitor? Is he a hero?

I second everything Charlie said. I would say the thing that I take from the Ed Snowden matter is the power of one man because people think, well, I'm just one person. He's one individual. He changed world history. He changed the course of history. Correct. I don't know what's in his heart. You know, people say, is he a traitor? Is he a hero?

This is really the tale as old as time with whistleblowers. You can be both. And it's extra legal what you do. You're violating your covenant. You're violating your nondisclosure agreement. You're violating your agreement with your employer for the public's right to know. That's right. As someone who's been through this, I'm a little biased. And here's why.

This is really the tale as old as time with whistleblowers. You can be both. And it's extra legal what you do. You're violating your covenant. You're violating your nondisclosure agreement. You're violating your agreement with your employer for the public's right to know. That's right. As someone who's been through this, I'm a little biased. And here's why.

Because the FBI came to my home, told Charlie this story, pounded on my door. I'm an American reporter. So if another country did this, our State Department would issue a press release and say this is wrong. Correct. The FBI came to my house with a battering ram like they're Vikings or something and smashed my door in, took guns, pointed it at my head, and took my reporter notebooks. Wow.

Because the FBI came to my home, told Charlie this story, pounded on my door. I'm an American reporter. So if another country did this, our State Department would issue a press release and say this is wrong. Correct. The FBI came to my house with a battering ram like they're Vikings or something and smashed my door in, took guns, pointed it at my head, and took my reporter notebooks. Wow.

In the United States of America. So forgive me for not trusting the government. And I'll tell you what they did. I totally agree. They – I had this phone. Of course, I don't have my phone – my lawyer's number memorized. The only phone numbers I've memorized are, like, my parents. So – I said, I need to talk to my lawyer. And the Fed was like, well, you want to use your iPhone?

In the United States of America. So forgive me for not trusting the government. And I'll tell you what they did. I totally agree. They – I had this phone. Of course, I don't have my phone – my lawyer's number memorized. The only phone numbers I've memorized are, like, my parents. So – I said, I need to talk to my lawyer. And the Fed was like, well, you want to use your iPhone?

And then I unlock my iPhone. I have to enter in the password. And the moment that I enter my password into the phone, the FBI agent snatches my phone and right in front of me changes the setting so it doesn't go to sleep and then puts it in an evidence bag.

And then I unlock my iPhone. I have to enter in the password. And the moment that I enter my password into the phone, the FBI agent snatches my phone and right in front of me changes the setting so it doesn't go to sleep and then puts it in an evidence bag.

So now the FBI, this is three and a half years ago, has access to all of my signal messages, which includes all of my confidential government sources. And it was like, and there were 10 agents, and I looked into their faces, and it struck me that half of them were like, this is wrong.

So now the FBI, this is three and a half years ago, has access to all of my signal messages, which includes all of my confidential government sources. And it was like, and there were 10 agents, and I looked into their faces, and it struck me that half of them were like, this is wrong.