James Oten

And that's what we're seeing now play out.

And that's what we're seeing now play out.

So you have these serious allegations.

So you have these serious allegations.

Now they get tested in the Australian legal system.

Now they get tested in the Australian legal system.

When we are dealing with children, the dynamics are quite different.

When we are dealing with children, the dynamics are quite different.

I know we've heard the phrase de-radicalization used a lot, a lot of media discussion about our de-radicalization programs.

I know we've heard the phrase de-radicalization used a lot, a lot of media discussion about our de-radicalization programs.

We do have in Victoria, New South Wales, programs which are intended to take people off the path of radicalization.

We do have in Victoria, New South Wales, programs which are intended to take people off the path of radicalization.

It's through Victoria Police Board of Imams in Victoria.

It's through Victoria Police Board of Imams in Victoria.

That's something that if you are going down that road of radicalization, they can divert you away from it.

That's something that if you are going down that road of radicalization, they can divert you away from it.

But when we are dealing with these children, overwhelmingly what they will go through is actually just a reintegration and support.

But when we are dealing with these children, overwhelmingly what they will go through is actually just a reintegration and support.

We are dealing most likely with trauma, but again, how children respond to trauma can vary greatly.

We are dealing most likely with trauma, but again, how children respond to trauma can vary greatly.