James Pogue
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It's a coalition now. I think what we have seen over the time that I've been paying attention to this stuff is which goes back to the first time I met J.D. Vance at a diner in our mutual hometown. At that point... I had never heard these words that are sort of the buzzwords of the whole movement.
It's a coalition now. I think what we have seen over the time that I've been paying attention to this stuff is which goes back to the first time I met J.D. Vance at a diner in our mutual hometown. At that point... I had never heard these words that are sort of the buzzwords of the whole movement.
The regime, you know, elite replacement, this attempt to essentially, like, reshape not just American politics in the way that elections always do, but actually reshape the ruling oligarchy of the United States. I didn't know anything about this stuff. And now, you know, suddenly this guy, Curtis Yarvin, who's often...
The regime, you know, elite replacement, this attempt to essentially, like, reshape not just American politics in the way that elections always do, but actually reshape the ruling oligarchy of the United States. I didn't know anything about this stuff. And now, you know, suddenly this guy, Curtis Yarvin, who's often...
Somewhat exaggeratedly, but often described as sort of the dark lord, intellectual godfather of this whole thing. Suddenly he's mainstream. And so we're seeing like a true political coalition having to navigate very, very big questions about how to keep themselves together.
Somewhat exaggeratedly, but often described as sort of the dark lord, intellectual godfather of this whole thing. Suddenly he's mainstream. And so we're seeing like a true political coalition having to navigate very, very big questions about how to keep themselves together.
It would be... I mean, J.D. is the perfect person. J.D. is the sort of unifying figure within the coalition. He is for this intellectual wing, like, as they would say, their guy, which is a term that comes up a lot in these worlds. And what that means is not just he shares some politics with us.
It would be... I mean, J.D. is the perfect person. J.D. is the sort of unifying figure within the coalition. He is for this intellectual wing, like, as they would say, their guy, which is a term that comes up a lot in these worlds. And what that means is not just he shares some politics with us.
It means he's formed by the same forces as them, which is largely derived from Twitter and old neo-reactionary blogs and things like that. But so with J.D., You know, he had a conversion to a worldview that is, I would say, now pretty general amongst magospheres, but wasn't in 2022.
It means he's formed by the same forces as them, which is largely derived from Twitter and old neo-reactionary blogs and things like that. But so with J.D., You know, he had a conversion to a worldview that is, I would say, now pretty general amongst magospheres, but wasn't in 2022.
He had a conversion towards a politics where he saw a global empire deriving from the imperial seat here in Washington, D.C., that was run by people who were actively engaging in politics detrimental to and plundering the wealth and essentially value systems of the people he came from.
He had a conversion towards a politics where he saw a global empire deriving from the imperial seat here in Washington, D.C., that was run by people who were actively engaging in politics detrimental to and plundering the wealth and essentially value systems of the people he came from.
And he describes them as my people in a way that, you know, when you hear it, you go, what is the subtext of that word? And you could sort of argue that J.D. Vance is, in the modern era, the first type of politician to use phrases like my people with the subtext of possibly that means... you know, Anglo-Saxons and Scots-Irish people living in middle America and building a politics around them.
And he describes them as my people in a way that, you know, when you hear it, you go, what is the subtext of that word? And you could sort of argue that J.D. Vance is, in the modern era, the first type of politician to use phrases like my people with the subtext of possibly that means... you know, Anglo-Saxons and Scots-Irish people living in middle America and building a politics around them.
And so, you know, JD came to this with an idea that the Jamie Diamonds and the Mark Zuckerbergs and people like that were not just sort of like enemies because they weren't conservative. They're actually class enemies and enemies of an oligarchy that they wanted to replace and essentially become, right?
And so, you know, JD came to this with an idea that the Jamie Diamonds and the Mark Zuckerbergs and people like that were not just sort of like enemies because they weren't conservative. They're actually class enemies and enemies of an oligarchy that they wanted to replace and essentially become, right?
Well, so Curtis is a reactionary. And we use reactionary in a very casual way. Curtis is a reactionary in the way that he thinks that, you know, Pennsylvania farmers in 1800 were better formed people than people today. And Curtis, you know, is to some degree a technologist. He's founded a tech company. He comes from the tech world.
Well, so Curtis is a reactionary. And we use reactionary in a very casual way. Curtis is a reactionary in the way that he thinks that, you know, Pennsylvania farmers in 1800 were better formed people than people today. And Curtis, you know, is to some degree a technologist. He's founded a tech company. He comes from the tech world.