James Rosen

official ever to serve time.

So I've been at work on Nixon and Watergate for a very long time.

Honestly, I've been obsessed with it since I'm a child.

I'm ashamed to tell you.

I did play Little League.

I had a normal childhood.

I want you to understand, Steve, but I've had this obsession for a long time.

And one of the episodes of the first Nixon term before Watergate that is the most important in his presidency was something that very few people know about today.

It was called the Moore-Radford affair.

And this was the discovery by the White House plumbers.

That was a secret group that was formed to plug news leaks after the release of the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times.

The plumbers were the ones who broke into the Watergate complex and planted the wiretaps in the Democratic National Committee headquarters.

The plumbers were the ones who broke into the psychiatrist's office for the physician who was treating Daniel Ellsberg, the man that leaked the Pentagon Papers to the New York Times.

But one of the other projects that the Plumbers worked on was this Moore-Radford affair.

And what happened was there was a very famous columnist at the time, Jack Anderson, who won a Pulitzer Prize for publishing contents of some White House and Defense Department memoranda and also the minutes taken at a National Security Council meeting

that had occurred just 10 days earlier.

That was one of the most astonishing leaks in the history of the United States government, that Henry Kissinger, running the National Security Council, is having a private meeting with his aides about what to do about the India-Pakistan war.

The United States was publicly neutral, but

They were sort of tilting towards Pakistan because Pakistan was helping Nixon arrange his trip to China.

And Kissinger was basically telling his own staff, I'm catching hell from the president every half hour because he thinks we're not doing enough to tilt towards Pakistan.