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Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
it's very likely that some animal immune systems will just happen to work against this.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
Having said that, I still think it's plausible that a large fraction of animals could be susceptible here.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
There are even some vertebrates like the lampreys and hagfish, which if you've never seen a picture of them, they look really like the sandworm from June.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
They have slightly different immune systems, which we haven't looked into in as much detail, but share the same principles.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
that's vertebrates, then invertebrates, so things like insects, the immune systems are less well characterized.
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Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
So insect immune systems are less well understood than vertebrate ones, but we do know that insects have innate immunity that's quite similar to what we have in vertebrates.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
They lack an adaptive immune system, but they do have innate immune systems that similarly rely on pattern recognition receptors
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
to get them to work.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
So in fruit flies that are one of the most well-studied examples, their antibacterial defenses being activated is downstream of binding of a pattern recognition receptor to a molecule called peptidoglycan, which is a chiral molecule that's present in bacterial cell walls.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
And there have been experiments where these fruit flies have that receptor knocked out so it doesn't work.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
And that really increases the susceptibility of the fruit flies to infection by bacteria.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
So common bacteria that don't normally cause disease will end up killing them.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
And this is also true in mosquitoes and bees.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
Beyond that, I'm not so sure.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
There's a lot of this that hasn't been studied in detail, but the same principles of immunity are common to all animals.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
And so I think we should unfortunately be quite worried.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
I'm somewhat confident that there'll be at least something that would be able to respond to this.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
But in the animals that we've studied the best, humans, we, I think, do know enough to be quite worried.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
Even in humans, there's definitely a possibility that we're missing something in the analysis.
80,000 Hours Podcast
Why I quit everything to work on a biothreat nobody had heard of | James Smith, Mirror Biology Dialogues Fund
And in fact, the immune system can deal with it from some unpredictable way.