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James Stout

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Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

Earlier on in the 20th century, the typical profile of one of these people would have been that they'd left the military in a state in the global north.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

They had found, let's say, life or employment in the civilian world to be difficult for them.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

And I've met a number of these people in a number of places.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

Many of them went to parts of Africa thinking that they were going to work protecting wildlife.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

and then ending up protecting large container ships instead, or attempting to work for a company that would one day let them protect wildlife or something similar.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

Generally, the companies they end up working for are generally referred to as private maritime security companies, PMSCs, as opposed to PMC, private military contractor, right?

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

Although it is a version of the same thing.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

Generally, these companies offer a shipping company a sort of package system

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

And it's not just armed security.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

It also includes stuff like intelligence, crisis response and potential intervention.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

I spoke to someone, for instance, who had worked for a shipping company and his major job was to deal with when the people were kidnapped off the boats.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

He would then either go and rescue the people or negotiate with the people who had kidnapped them.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

Yeah.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

So mostly they're on large commercial vessels, right?

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

Cargo ships, oil tankers, things with an expensive cargo.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

Although it is not unheard of for PMSCs.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

For instance, you may have a maritime security company to secure your large mega yacht.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

Sure.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

Or another boat that you're worried about.

Behind the Bastards
It Could Happen Here Weekly 224

Yes, there was a shootout in the early 2000s, or a shootout, it's probably a shootout.