James Stout

There are plenty of allegations of that.

We'll get on to the lack of really any means of legal accountability at some point.

What they do instead is they allow contractors to go on the ships and these contractors then have to be armed, right?

The way they tend to be armed is depending on the flag of the ship and what regulations it has, right?

Generally, if they're entering into an area where they can't be armed, they have what are called floating armories.

Those are what they sound like.

You don't understand how long in my freelance career I spent trying to get onto one of these particular boats.

It was a long time.

It could be an old oil platform.

Yeah, okay.

It could be a little boat.

It could be a big boat.

Sometimes the contractors themselves were like, that's where the contractors will meet the big boat, right?

And they'll get on it there.

So they have like an area they can hang out.

Like it has living facilities.

Okay.

I've spoken to a few people in this world, but, you know, if you happen to be listening and you're a boat security guy, I know this is continues to fascinate me as an area where like the state doesn't exist.

And we have this like post state private militarization.

It's like anarcho-capitalism.