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James Stout

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

I feel like this makes me free, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Yeah.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

So large numbers of enslaved people in England start fleeing their masters in an errant belief that slavery had ended on the island.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Many abolitionists who misunderstood the ruling celebrated it as a sign of the fundamental justice and equality of English law.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Judge Mansfield had to issue a note that the case was only really relevant to a specific niche situation, which caused Ben Franklin to joke that English abolitionists were celebrating the majesty of their legal system for its virtue in, quote, setting free a single Negro, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Where he's like, okay, guys, like, it's good, but, like, maybe calm down a little bit, you know?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Yeah, pipe down.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Yeah, this is one guy.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

There's still a lot of guys.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Still a net negative.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Now, this judge, the Earl of Mansfield, is a really interesting guy because not only is he the judge in the Somerset case, he's going to be the judge in the Zorg case.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Now, this isn't weird because he's one of the most significant figures in the whole history of English law.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

He's the judge for a lot of big cases at the time, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

But he's a particularly interesting guy to rule on cases like this because he has no child of his own, but he's raising his illegitimate niece, Dito Bell, as his daughter, and she is a black woman of mixed race.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Right.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

So he is simultaneously repeatedly being like enslaved people are property and my ruling should not be seen to free anyone.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

And is also clearly capable of understanding that they're human beings because he is a black woman.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Right.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

And there's there are a couple of moments where because he's never talks in a way that's very sympathetic to this.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

But there's a couple of rulings where it's like, well, maybe this is where his sympathy moved him a little bit.