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James Stout

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

The dark question that hovered over the whole proceeding was this.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

If not out of necessity, why would Stubbs and the crew have thrown 130 people overboard?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

And the answer that people kept thinking was probably the obvious one is this.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

After a too long journey on a slave ship crammed with twice its maximum occupancy, without enough food or enough water and disease endemic, many of the enslaved people on board were too sick and visibly ailing to fetch much of a price at auction.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

So if you just kill them, the insured value is higher than what they would sell for.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

We don't know that that's what was going on, but this is what people start talking about.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

And it's not an unreasonable proposition.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Yeah, no, it's not.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

It lines up.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Yeah.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Yeah.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

But everything else they've done is ghastly.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Right.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

And this changes the thinking of a lot of people like Mansfield who are not abolitionists, but who are like, oh shit, but if like, if we establish this precedent, people might just start murdering ships full of enslaved people to just get the insurance money.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

And that seems like a nightmare.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Like that's even bad to me.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

And I kind of suck ass.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

You know?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

So this fact is shaking even to guys like Judge Manfield.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

And he ruled, quote, to be sure, what Mr. Haywood has observed is a very material circumstance.