James Stout

I mean, it's a really outrageous state of affairs.

Has there been an exodus of foreign journalists?

What's the situation like for those who are in Lebanon?

No, there's not been an exodus.

You know, I think that many foreign journalists still feel that they're protected.

It's an interesting dynamic, you know, because I think as you'll know very well, right?

Like whenever there are...

active hostilities or things like this.

We have this flock of journalists who come in and then once it kind of calms down, they leave.

And I always find that bizarre because I feel like so much of the work to be done happens when ceasefires go into effect because that's when you can see the extent of damages.

That's when you can actually investigate and see...

you know okay now that the firing has stopped you have better access to places you can spend more time in places you can get deeper stories i mean unfortunately that the way that media works today there's not the luxury of time oftentimes you know media outlets are are under staffed and underfunded and so it's a it's a difficult prospect there's still actually quite a lot of foreign journalists here luckily some of them even covered ahmad khalid's you know funeral they covered her memorial they covered what happened to her because it was such an egregious example

You know, at the same time, I think that there is this sort of dynamic the Israelis are aware of that if they kill a foreign journalist, right, like they can kill, they have killed a Lebanese journalist who worked for a major international outlet.

And that led to some troubles for them because Reuters and others collaborated to do an investigation.

Human rights organizations are reporting on this.

Killing other Lebanese journalists that worked for less prominent outlets still led to certain condemnations, certain reports were written.

But I think that, you know, it's kind of this effect.

It's like an avalanche effect.

It's that the more the more sort of attention goes towards these sort of incidents, the more of a more problem it becomes for for Israel with their international influence.

partners or their international relations, right?