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James Stout

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

That is kind of what's going on here.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

The central legal question is not, was it bad that they killed these people?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

It's,

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Did these people have to die because disasters that the Zorg's crew were not in control of had caused a situation where it was impossible to keep them alive, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Is this a situation where there was no other option, where people were going to die one way or the other and they were trying to save a portion of the crew and the cargo?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Right.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Or was this a case where the people operating the ship had fucked up constantly and

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

and unnecessarily murdered a bunch of people, and we're now trying to get insurance money to cover up the fact that they fucked up, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Which of these is what happened here, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

And to be clear, if you approach the case of the Zorg from just that standpoint, ignoring the crime against humanity, the Gregson Syndicate and its employees are in the wrong.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Right.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Because they did fuck up repeatedly and horribly.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Yeah.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

You know, you do not have to be like morally against slavery to be like, well, but like you guys didn't know what the fuck you were doing.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

You just threw them over.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

But you had 400 gallons of water on the boat.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

You know who else has a lot of water?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

I can make a guess.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

Yeah.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: X-Mas Special: The Heroes Who Ended The Slave Trade

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