James Talarico

I'm interested in all that.

I'm also interested in how you allow for economic solutions, how you encourage the development of more humane platforms that I think could succeed.

I really do.

I think we're going to look back 100 years and we're going to see these as

kind of the rudimentary first versions of these platforms, kind of like we see child labor and things like that.

And we're like, you know, so glad we progressed beyond that.

These feel so much better.

But here's what I would just say.

Those political solutions, those economic solutions, we should talk about them.

We should pursue them vigorously.

But at the core, this is a spiritual problem.

It really is.

I mentioned earlier that the biggest competitor for these platforms is human relationships.

You now have a closed system almost where the platforms like Instagram make you feel insecure, make you feel lonely, make you feel isolated.

And then AI provides you the therapy to treat that loneliness and that isolation.

Well, and the question you're circling that we're all circling is what does it mean to be a human being?

Yes.

And that is not a question I'm going to be able to answer in a bill in the U.S.

in all seriousness, love podcasts because of that.

It is, sometimes we can say that these technologies, these platforms are all terrible, all toxic, but podcasts, I think, are one of the beautiful things that have come out of it.