James Talarico

Ultimately, we didn't win, kind of came down to a photo finish.

But it did, to me, provide a template for what happens if we actually loved our enemies, if we rebuilt these relationships.

Like, who could we take on if we did it together?

Democrats and Republicans, conservatives and progressives.

Like, I don't know.

Sometimes I sound a little Pollyanna.

They have all the power.

For their own benefit.

You know, I think if I'm taking the journalism that's been done on Dun & Wilkes, I think their ultimate goal is a theocracy.

And again, this is very personal, given how important my faith is to me, but I'm a Christian, and I think there is no more dangerous form of government than theocracy.

Right.

Because the only thing worse than a tyrant is a tyrant who thinks they're on a mission from God.

And so, again, this is people trying to use my religion to control people.

Yeah.

That's the name of the game.

And we're seeing that here.

I mean, Texas is—I'm an eighth-generation Texan.

My family's been here since it was Mexico.

I love this state.

But I've just seen people like Dunham Wilkes just—