James Talarico

Those political solutions, those economic solutions, we should talk about them.

We should pursue them vigorously.

But at the core, this is a spiritual problem.

It really is.

I mentioned earlier that the biggest competitor for these platforms is human relationships.

You now have a closed system almost where the platforms like Instagram make you feel insecure, make you feel lonely, make you feel isolated.

And then AI provides you the therapy to treat that loneliness and that isolation.

Well, and the question you're circling that we're all circling is what does it mean to be a human being?

Yes.

And that is not a question I'm going to be able to answer in a bill in the U.S.

in all seriousness, love podcasts because of that.

It is, sometimes we can say that these technologies, these platforms are all terrible, all toxic, but podcasts, I think, are one of the beautiful things that have come out of it.

You know, also, as much as you, if you spend time on TikTok, how it's abusing your attention and addicting you, it's also an opportunity to see just how hilarious and creative and beautiful human beings are all over the world.

So I don't, I don't mean to say that this technology can't create something beautiful, too.

I think we just have to understand the harm it is inflicting.

Such a good question.

So, yeah, I agree with you.

Economic answers aren't going to get us there, but I also think political answers are going to get us there.

Because the question is not should the state...

intervene to stop you from doing something?