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James Wrigley

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The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

The interest or the dividends or that kind of income return that you earn on these assets, that's still going to be taxed at marginal tax rates, whereas in the super fund, that's going to be at 30.

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

And so from an ordinary income perspective, you're better off in your own name than you are in super, assuming you don't have any other income in your own name.

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

But from a capital gains tax perspective, then it's a fairly similar setup, albeit remember that the capital gain on the assets in your own name is going to be indexed with inflation and then a minimum 30%, whereas the capital gains tax under this Division 296, if that's where all of the earnings lands, is going to be a flat 30%.

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

So you've probably got a higher capital gains tax bill in super than you would

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

in your own name, but it's not night and day like it was before.

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

It's certainly something that needs some extra thinking.

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

I think there will be less people pulling money out of super because the alternative of outside isn't that much different for some people now anymore.

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

Look, possibly, but I think it will also skew like that particular product that was mentioned is a share market geared type of product that's available.

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

I think we'll see people moving forward where it was the default for a lot of Aussies to buy their house and then go and buy an investment property on another one.

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

Whereas I think we'll have a lot more people now considering, okay, well, do I invest in the property or shares essentially?

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

Because you can still negatively gear your share portfolio.

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

You can negatively gear your commercial property if you're going down that route.

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

So not only does the ordinary income, that dividend type income, it's going to be taxed at marginal tax rates, not this capital gains tax regime that you're talking about before, but also the income losses that you take if your interest bill is more than the income that you're earning.

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

that's deductible against your ordinary income as well.

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

So I think we will see a lot more people considering the share market for their investing and potentially negatively gearing investing, whereas before the

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

Could they?

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

Yes.

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

For the most part, these ETF providers are really just in the market of providing an investment option

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

the entity through which you own that investment option is then entirely up to you, the investor.

The Money Puzzle
Is superannuation still the Budget winner?

Now, mentioning Vanguard, they have launched a super product, but for the most part, these ETF providers are really just providing an investment option.