James

Here's another one that goes out to Luke Frendo.

Luke, you're...

friend of the podcast friend of the podcast oh my god that's it uh your fact is until the mid 2000s the best method for counting pandas was to sift through their poo um and now this isn't if you're in the zoo and there's like three pandas in front of you it's like one two three it's like in the wild and you can't see them all and

Yeah, trying to do a census, because it's very important to assess, and they had to just find poo and look for tooth marks on bits of undigested bamboo.

And I'm sure nowadays it's all DNA these days, isn't it?

It's all technology these days.

We've lost so many of our traditions.

Could not agree more.

With Wikipedian Brian Henderson there.

It could be.

It's got to be.

Brian, you win.

Put it back up, you scumbag.

And is that because we've got things like energy bars?

And supportive shoes.

We can just get radiation and chuck it away.

That's really good.

I also read that the upright thing is really interesting because us being upright means that when we're running, we can separate breathing in and out and our strides, right?

If you're a quadruped and you're running with your legs going in and out, you're sort of moving like an accordion.

So you're sort of having to time your breathing.