Jamie Carragher

It just, I don't know, it just doesn't seem to have that licked.

You said just before, I mean, we both thought Arsenal were going to win.

And he said, even if they lose in the right way, I think that way in which the second half went, where they didn't turn up, I think that will leave a little bit of a doubt there.

Because, I mean, you said the gap's big, and we're talking hypothetically here, but the gap's six points if City win the game, and City have got to play them at the Etihad.

So City will be smelling a little bit of...

and just in the second half on Saturday I just thought I thought first half was even did anyone think the first half was even 50-50 especially that first chance that we had half time I thought it's on track this for an Arsenal set piece but the way they started the second half basically playing in their own box and just playing negatively and sort of not it was very slow it was slow and even Jane with that 4-2-4 right obviously that's something that you said you've seen it before people have done it before but do you think he'd done that because of Kepa because he was he was taking a lot he was going a lot slower than normally

Yeah, 2003.

That was my worst ever cup final, that.

I had a terrible game.

I think it was 2-0, didn't you?

Oh, 2-0, yeah.

It was terrible.

It was at Cardiff.

We were shocking that day.

We didn't turn up... Look, you don't turn up in a cup final.

It is unusual that a team that's reliable ordinarily doesn't turn up.

But on Sunday, I just thought, if you're Arsenal's players... In 2002, when we lost that final, to be fair, we...

Yeah, 2-3.

We got a right kick up the backside after it, as you'd imagine.

But there were a lot of players in that dressing room who'd been used to winning.