Jamie Carragher

Also, just going back to this, Sven, I think the team was called the Golden Generation, certainly those players, they are world-class players, and I agree, they were the four best midfielders individually.

But a lot of these players now, when we spoke about 4-4-2 at the top of the show, was there ever anything in your thinking where you could actually play those three centrally

And you could actually play a 4-3-3 or a 4-5-1.

Would that have been a problem then with the strikers, one of them going to the left?

Was that one of the reasons you brought him off?

Because he actually think of the substitutions in the game.

Sven, we get to 2006, your last tournament with England.

A problem now for Gareth Southgate is talk of injuries to Rashford and Harry Kane.

Obviously Rooney had an injury I think very late in the season, metatarsal.

Do you actually look back and

with more experience of that, do you think it's still the right thing to do to take injured players or do you think it actually didn't work for England?

Not just with him, obviously, I think David Beckham, I think in 2002 also.

He was not regular at that time.

I was in the squad, but there's no doubt in the squad when the squad gets picked, players talk about who's in the squad, who's missed out.

It was a big surprise Theo Walcott was in it because he hadn't played for Arsenal.

Was a lot of that your conversations with Arsene Wenger?

Because you couldn't have seen him play too much.

Not too much.

Maybe Jermaine Defoe.

Going back to Rooney with the injury, how tough a fight was that for you to actually get him to the World Cup?