Jamie Kern Lima

our humanness wants to think that if something bad happened to us in our life, it's our fault or it's because we did something and now this is karma or we did something and now God's punishing us. And And when you just mentioned that, that having an abortion at age 18, then six months later, this tragedy happens with the loss of your sister's life.

our humanness wants to think that if something bad happened to us in our life, it's our fault or it's because we did something and now this is karma or we did something and now God's punishing us. And And when you just mentioned that, that having an abortion at age 18, then six months later, this tragedy happens with the loss of your sister's life.

And so when did you have those thoughts like, oh, is this because of what I did? Was that like, was that immediately? Instantly. Yeah. Yeah. You said God is not tit for tat.

And so when did you have those thoughts like, oh, is this because of what I did? Was that like, was that immediately? Instantly. Yeah. Yeah. You said God is not tit for tat.

No. That's the end.

No. That's the end.

Isn't it wild that it's everywhere now, whether you're a politician or I mean, I have friends call me all the time or people reaching out online for advice because, you know, they're a lawyer. They didn't want a public profile ever. They're a doctor. They didn't want a public profile. But now they're everything. Everything's online.

Isn't it wild that it's everywhere now, whether you're a politician or I mean, I have friends call me all the time or people reaching out online for advice because, you know, they're a lawyer. They didn't want a public profile ever. They're a doctor. They didn't want a public profile. But now they're everything. Everything's online.

And then they get reviews on these sites and they don't even know who's writing those reviews. And then it's just like everything now. I almost feel like you and I feel like you can barely like if you do anything at all, it's going to come with success. so much criticism in 2025.

And then they get reviews on these sites and they don't even know who's writing those reviews. And then it's just like everything now. I almost feel like you and I feel like you can barely like if you do anything at all, it's going to come with success. so much criticism in 2025.

And I feel like, you know, I think about growing up when someone was mad about something, they wrote a letter and maybe someone saw that letter. Now it's like, you know, do you remember like even, um, you know, there would be food critics and they'd, you know, built trust for decades with their craft to write a review of a restaurant.

And I feel like, you know, I think about growing up when someone was mad about something, they wrote a letter and maybe someone saw that letter. Now it's like, you know, do you remember like even, um, you know, there would be food critics and they'd, you know, built trust for decades with their craft to write a review of a restaurant.

And now it's sort of like everyone is, you know, it's just so different.

And now it's sort of like everyone is, you know, it's just so different.

somehow this thing has happened. And I feel like even more so in the past couple of years, now that so much is online where you're like vilified, if you're around someone who believes different than you do or votes different or loves different, or I, you know, identifies different, whatever it might be.

somehow this thing has happened. And I feel like even more so in the past couple of years, now that so much is online where you're like vilified, if you're around someone who believes different than you do or votes different or loves different, or I, you know, identifies different, whatever it might be.

And it's like, people just get, and I just feel like what makes me, and now I have, you know, I have five families I've adopted. It's a whole long story, but you know, this, There's times where people can't talk about politics or Thanksgiving will end.

And it's like, people just get, and I just feel like what makes me, and now I have, you know, I have five families I've adopted. It's a whole long story, but you know, this, There's times where people can't talk about politics or Thanksgiving will end.

And it's interesting that I just feel like if we have a shot at healing humanity through love, you can't do that if you don't understand the humans that make it up. And if you only spend time around people who believe what you believe, how can you ever... help heal humanity.

And it's interesting that I just feel like if we have a shot at healing humanity through love, you can't do that if you don't understand the humans that make it up. And if you only spend time around people who believe what you believe, how can you ever... help heal humanity.