Jamie Loftus

But if we're looking at it in the lens of IMLS, the building might be open, maybe, because maybe they have the foundational operationals, but then there won't be these programs, there won't be these resources, there'll just be a bunch of books on the shelves.

Yeah. Yeah. Or just, like, sit and read the paper and know what's going on in the world.

Yeah. Yeah. Or just, like, sit and read the paper and know what's going on in the world.

Yeah. Yeah. Or just, like, sit and read the paper and know what's going on in the world.

Right.

Right.

Right.

Yeah, moms for liberty and whatnot.

Yeah, moms for liberty and whatnot.

Yeah, moms for liberty and whatnot.

So, you know, you're talking about the last decade to half decade. I think we can really trace it back much farther, at least 30 years to the Clinton administration, actually. I want to talk about the Democrats. But even, you know, the roots farther back than that, because we have a neoliberal problem, right?

So, you know, you're talking about the last decade to half decade. I think we can really trace it back much farther, at least 30 years to the Clinton administration, actually. I want to talk about the Democrats. But even, you know, the roots farther back than that, because we have a neoliberal problem, right?

So, you know, you're talking about the last decade to half decade. I think we can really trace it back much farther, at least 30 years to the Clinton administration, actually. I want to talk about the Democrats. But even, you know, the roots farther back than that, because we have a neoliberal problem, right?

So it's basically the idea that all activity should generate obvious immediate monetary profit, that everything should be run by a business, that everything should be subject to the market, quote unquote. And so that's where we are with libraries, is that Even though I can sit here and say every dollar that the IMLS spends generates $2 of economic activity, that somehow isn't even good enough.

So it's basically the idea that all activity should generate obvious immediate monetary profit, that everything should be run by a business, that everything should be subject to the market, quote unquote. And so that's where we are with libraries, is that Even though I can sit here and say every dollar that the IMLS spends generates $2 of economic activity, that somehow isn't even good enough.

So it's basically the idea that all activity should generate obvious immediate monetary profit, that everything should be run by a business, that everything should be subject to the market, quote unquote. And so that's where we are with libraries, is that Even though I can sit here and say every dollar that the IMLS spends generates $2 of economic activity, that somehow isn't even good enough.

Because when the powers that be look at libraries, they just see money being flushed down the toilet, and that's the only way they can measure anything. So if you look at it and you're just saying, well, this is a place we spend money. This doesn't create money. This doesn't make more money happen.

Because when the powers that be look at libraries, they just see money being flushed down the toilet, and that's the only way they can measure anything. So if you look at it and you're just saying, well, this is a place we spend money. This doesn't create money. This doesn't make more money happen.

Because when the powers that be look at libraries, they just see money being flushed down the toilet, and that's the only way they can measure anything. So if you look at it and you're just saying, well, this is a place we spend money. This doesn't create money. This doesn't make more money happen.

The idea that everything should be run by a business and everything should be subject to market logics, that would say, well, if we're going to subject everything to market logics, libraries have no value because we're only measuring it. And can this make number go up? Yeah. And even though libraries do make number go up, it's not obvious. You can't make it obvious.