Jamie Loftus

Oh, Lizzie.

Also, putting her in prison for, you know, probably nine years when you consider all of the other things is like...

not going to help anything.

Uh, it'll just mean that that kid she has grows up without a mom for nine years and that's not going to make the world better.

Yes.

This actually, this actually will be relevant to the episode, but yes, please.

Okay.

He so it was like a tax evasion charge.

Anyways, I'm going to I'm going to see how far this goes by committing murder and then having my pants fall down and like, well, judge, look, yes, I did stab that man 47 times.

But then everybody saw my underpants.

Yeah.

Can we can we just zero this one out?

Wow, that's good.

You do literally have one on your shoulder right now.

Yeah, patty the platypus.

Just like I have this rifle next to me.

That's right.

So, Jamie, speaking of...

elizabeth holmes because the person we're talking about today is going to be the next story like that uh by this time next year there probably is going to be an hbo documentary about this guy oh god maybe taylor taylor kitch could probably play him um actually if he wanted to really like round that out taylor kitch played hot david koresh in the waco show oh

Oh, that that is true.