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Jamie Loftus

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Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

And as an incredibly tiny country, one of its primary assets is simply the fact that it is a sovereign nation because there's things that countries can do.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

that nothing else can do, like issue certain kinds of passports and visas and do certain kinds of things with banking, right?

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

So if you're a really tiny country that doesn't have a shitload of natural resources, one thing you can export is the benefits of your sovereignty to, say, really rich people who might want certain things that you can do as a country for them.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

So...

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

There's a number of ways in which Nauru has kind of taken advantage of this to get by.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

One of them is that they've sort of sold access to their land to Australia to use so that Australia has used them for years as an offshore processing center for asylum seekers.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

I think this stopped most recently in 2019, but there's been a couple of waves of this and it was not a pleasant place, right?

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

Conditions were so brutal in sort of the offshore processing center on Nauru from 2012 to 2019 that several residents carried out like deadly forms of protests, sewing their own lips shut or lighting themselves on fire as a protest of the conditions they were facing.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

Pretty ugly scene.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

Wow.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

In the late 1990s, kind of prior to this period, Nauru was the chief money laundering location for the emerging Russian oligarch class.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

They helped a lot of these oligarch types you've heard about in the context of Putin, launder about $70 billion in ill-gotten funds during the early stages of the Russian Federation.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

Oh, yeah.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

No, Nauru's adjacent to a whole lot of shitty people.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

Yeah, here it's a lovely place.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

Nauru was also designated a money laundering state by the U.S.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

Treasury in 2002, which led to sanctions, which I think is probably why they moved to like letting Australia offshore migrants there for a while.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

And since Australia stopped doing that in 2019, Sam Bankman Freed and his fellow effective altruists felt like they might have had an opportunity there, right?

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

Like Nauru is kind of looking for some new cash flow.

Behind the Bastards
CZM Rewind: How Sam Bankman-Fried Conned the Crypto World & The Sam Bankman-Fried Update

They're looking for a sovereign nation to do some things for.