Jamie Metzl

I think we should have debates where people do debates with no notes or only handwritten notes.

improvisational theater.

I think people who are thinking about ethics, there's so much opportunity for our traditional religious and spiritual and other communities to help people listen to their own voice, listen to their own hearts.

But if everybody lives these digitized lives, and especially if they're all being hacked, so people think, oh, I'm so free.

I'm just looking at stuff on Instagram and TikTok.

You are

Being completely hacked.

I even find it.

I'm pretty active on Twitter.

I hate all these new names.

Twitter.

Hacks, yeah.

I'll go on Twitter and it'll be like two minutes later and I'll find like, oh, I'm so angry.

Why am I so angry?

I've been scrolling.

It's like, ah, it's that thing and that thing.

Yeah, of course.

I just think that it's so important.

We're moving toward every day is peak technology relative to all of human history up to this day.

But we need to keep getting better as humans.