Jamie Metzl

So if they say, well, here's what we need to do.

And then the question is, what's the right mix of humans and machines that can optimally achieve this thing that we're trying to achieve?

I think that's a good way for us to think about it.

And as I said before, I'm a real humanist, but we're spending too much energy in this country fighting each other when we should be collaborating to build great things in line with our best values and our values.

That word our in that sentence, people say, what's our best values?

And that's why we have democracy.

We can come together and say, well, we have these differences, but where can we find common ground?

And we have individuals, we have leaders who are not doing that.

They're not serving us because they're spending so much of their energy in the combative, my enemy is the other guy.

Whereas I wish we could have a point.

I don't know this make America great again.

If you look back, there's times that we've been great in some ways and less great in other ways.

But I'm definitely an MAG, Make America Greater.

Like, I think we should make MAG.

And a purple hat.

A purple hat.

Okay, I was going to ask what color hat.

Yeah, purple hat.

MAG.

Jamie Metzl, thank you so much.