Jamie Mustard

So it was like a dirt color shag, which steel bunk beds stacked three high.

I moved there when I was three and I was on the third bunk, constantly falling.

And there would be 14 of these things crammed into a small room.

There wouldn't be a lot of room to walk between the bunks.

And then a kid stacked three high on each bunk.

You know, it's interesting.

When I first started talking about the book and I was telling people about the living conditions, people would ask me, they would say, why would they even do that?

It seems like they're going through trouble to put you in these conditions.

And I had never really thought about it, even in writing the book.

Why did they do that?

And so when I reverse engineered it and I looked at their doctrines, they have doctrines that intimate this.

It's kind of like if you, Jordan, had got a baby pig that you were never going to keep.

It was like an economic gift that your neighbor farmer gave you.

You wouldn't eat that pig tomorrow.

You would put that pig in the pig pen with the least amount of resources as possible, grow it for 10 years till it's a giant 300 pound pig for slaughter.

So we weren't looked at as anything of value until we could work or contribute labor.

So I never went to school.

At the age of 20, I could barely write characters, and I didn't know how to use a comma or construct a sentence or a paragraph.

Okay.

We were like livestock.