Jamie Wall

Obviously, it's Jono Gibbs' first year in charge.

What have you seen from him?

What differences are there that could potentially take this Chiefs team that one step further?

Do you think the Chiefs are where they want to be in terms of absolute maximum output at this point of the season?

Are they firing on all cylinders going into this game on Friday?

They certainly haven't peaked against the Crusaders because they've lost both games they've played.

Very contrasting results.

But you mentioned Damian McKenzie, Josh Jacob.

Josh Jacob obviously off next year down to the Highlanders.

How has that dynamic worked in your opinion?

Has it been a success or is it just an ongoing experiment?

Do you feel like it's a bit of a missed opportunity for the Chiefs to perhaps continue on with this?

Obviously, Josh Jackham wants to be starting at 10 all the time and he wants to go to a team that doesn't.

Good for him for doing this.

But was this something that you look at now and you're like, oh gosh, that could have been like a really pivotal axis for this team in years to come?

A Highlanders fan in the studio shaking his head at your assessment of the gameplay there.

I feel like it was a look more of resignation than disagreement.

there but you mentioned a guy before I'd love to talk a little bit more about him because we had John Day in yesterday on the round table picking him as his bolter for the All Blacks and that is Isaac Hutchison not a lot known about this guy going into this season down in your down your way was there a bit of talk about about him considering he'd come up from from Christchurch and the last guy playing 15 that they brought up from Christchurch turned out pretty good didn't he

Yeah, that's right.

And just on Isaac Hutchinson before we move on, I think his timing of coming into this team and doing what he's doing is, well, couldn't be better, really, because everyone's talking about him right now.